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Board Hardware
Re: Avalon A7 announced
by
StevenMosher
on 18/09/2017, 22:35:24 UTC
Has anyone actually received an email from Canaan in the last 2 weeks?



 Digging out from the avalanche.

 Sorry for having been gone so long but the response to  re-opening orders was beyond anything I have seen in 20+ years  of doing this sort of thing.

First  the bad.  When we re opened  we got hit with an enormous amount of Spam. Some individual in China  uploaded thousands of documents
to our site. That made it impossible to even open tickets  until  we cleaned away all the spam.

To make matters worse we got  hundreds of spam orders. It would appear somebody doesnt want us to decentralize mining. Go figure. We will badger away.

So let me explain the process we go through and how and when orders will get filled.


Large Orders:  These are pallet orders 60 units either with or without PSU.  All large orders have always shipped from Beijing.  In the past we have taken
                       wire transfer or BTC for these orders. Large orders  will continue to ship from Beijing. The MOQ - minimum order quantity-- is 60 units
                      This is literally a pallet of machines. It gives the customer the cheapest shipping. All payments  must be business to business. Wire transfer.
                      We are no longer able to take payments from individuals. We no longer take BTC for large orders.  The plan to move away from BTC  payments has
                       been in the process of a while,  and now  you guys probably understand  why  as the government has closed the exchanges.
                      The process for large orders  works like this

                      A)  You enter your order.  You will get estimated shipping charges.
                      B)  The Staff will get to your order in FIFO  order. Once they get to your order they will
                            contact you. If they havent contacted you its because there are other orders ahead of you.
                      C)  when they contact you they will ask you various questions, basically about importing. Some people
                            dont have importing companies so we work with you get an importing company-- this can add $500  or so to your order.
                           
                      D)  Then we make sure we have your stock and a place on a flight. Once we are sure we can ship your order, then we will ask for money.
                            We do this because there are a couple times  when people  just wired money  before the product was ready and then complained
                            that it wasnt shipping fast enough. 

                      If you have a large order  the best advice is to wait for Lily to contact you.  Now some people  have been ordering pallets and then reselling miners.
                      I cannot stop them. The problem is some of these guys  made promises to other people  and so they tend to bombard us mail about shipping
                      quickly because they have made promises  to other folks. The other piece of advice is  try your hardest to do everything the staff ask you
                      to do. For example,  we have to take wire transfer from another company. Dont waste huge amounts of time arguing this. Basically you are
                      holding up the next person in line. Also,  please use 'reply all"  on the emails. I basically include all the staff on every mail
                   
                      1. silvia:  She is the import export tax  guru.
                      2. lily:     HE does all the order processing, shipping etc.
                      3. Jasmine.  After sales support.  When Lily has 1000  mails  she will worj to get the priority cases to the top of his list and she handles RMA

                     

                      Depending on when you ordered  your shipment could go out before Sept 30th. Then Golden week  comes  Oct1-8. Everyone is off.
                      More generally  if you order now, you will be put in line and payment and shipping will happen after Oct 10. 
                       
                      So what takes so long?  Given the volume of orders and all the questions people have when they order, the processing and answering
                      all the emails  can take a long time. The other thing we have to contend with is fake orders, tire kickers, and multiple orders.
                      I'll give you one example. Customer complains and I ask for his order number: He sends me 60 order numbers. Orders ranging from
                      1 unit to several thousand. All with different names and addresses. So the process is terribly slow and manual. There is simply no
                      way to speed it up when customers  have valid questions when they order.

                      Bootstrap plans: I am putting a lot of customers on what I call  "boot strap" plans. These are guys  who will over time  order hundreds
                                             or thousands of machines  ( from all over the world which is really cool )  The boot strap plan means  if you continue
                                             to buy monthly I can give you increased discounts. I dont have this on the website  yet. So I do most of these via email
                                             These plans are individualized. They basically work for guys who want to mine a little and buy more,  mine more, buy more..
                                             The goal is to allow these guys to catch up with the folks who can buy 1000  on day one. Just ask me about Bootstrap Pricing.

                      Futures:           Inside China  miners buy Machine  Futures.  You pay today for Decemeber shipment. The discounts can be substantial.
                                             I will bring "futures" purchasing to the website so the rest of the world  can book machines  before they are built.
                                             This is one of the reasons why Miner supply is always so short. Almost all of the product is pre sold months in advance.
                                             Bringing this advantage to the rest of the world I hope will help decentralize.

Small Orders:   Small orders are for Units  less than 60.  A couple of months ago  it became clear that the small orders  would basically kill the staff. And
                       we also had to get on a path to end all BTC payments  ( See above).  Small orders all ship from Hong Kong.  When we end BTC payments
                       The HK  shipments will end. All of this is happening very rapidly  and I'm a little bit lucky in that I could see it coming, but still it
                       is very disruptive. Especially since  BTC Spiked right in the middle of our efforts to shift away from Hong Kong shipping. FML
                       

                       The plan is to engage distributors  in key geographies.  The distributors will  handle smaller orders.  Two distributors  are being setup. One in Korea
                       ( I spent last week there ) and one in the US. The Korean Disty is not set up yet.  The US distributor has just started ( and sold out )
                       Going  forward  I will probably set up a few more distributors, but the process takes a long time. We have to smooth out the supply and
                        make sure that things like RMA  are accounted for.
                       
                       
                     

                       When will I get my BTC address?:  We will try to get to all the invidual orders. We get to them in FIFO fashion.  When Stock arrives in fulfillment
                                                                          in HK  we then work through the orders. There is no stock in HK  so we are having to make yet another
                                                                          shipment there. Its getting hard since the fulfillment house knows we will end with them soon.  When units
                                                                          arrive in HK, then we know we can do a BTC transfer.  We dont want to give you an address, have you transfer
                                                                          funds and then have nothing in stock.

                      Should I just switch to the distributor:  Good question.  It is very hard to tell. The reason is simple. Say there are 1000  orders ahead of you.
                                                                               Historically speaking 60%  of all order cancel.  Guys put in orders with no intention of buying
                                                                               or just to see the shipping price ( So I tried moving to free shipping ) etc,  For inventory planning
                                                                               its very hard to know how many units to send to HK ( people will cancel the order, double the order, etc etc )
                                                                               Given that Shipping from HK will end and BTC payment will End,  it may be best to switch over to
                                                                                the distributor:  If you want to do this, send me an email. Include your order number.

                     I lost a lot of money and I hate you:   I know a number of folks who really wanted to time their buy for the top of BTC  pricing and also folks
                                                                            who had to move money around.  I can't make everyone whole, but I will try to do what I can for folks
                                                                            who write to me. If not now in the future.
 

Distributors:   A lot of people  write to me and ask how to be a distributor. The key is understanding that is very hard getting an exclusive. Your best bet
                     is to write to me. Say you want to order 60 units for reselling and show me your website. Order the units and get started.  I'm not going to
                     open multiple disty in the same region as long as the first guy is offering a fair price and working together with me to support the individual
                     miner.