Oh?  So you are going to chime into the conversation to enlighten us with some big blocker nonsense?  You want to justify why segwit2x is needed?  What points do you want to make that are supposedly going to inform this conversation?



What the fuck are you talking about?  Do you understand what is consensus?  Do you understand what is working within the system to attempt to persuade and to make changes?  Do you understand that segwit2x is an attempt to avert the system and to destroy it and to create another system?  The current system is not broken nor authoritarian, it is largely merit based, so if you have arguments and evidence that have merits then you can present and propose such arguments and evidence in order to attempt to change the system.. that is not despotism.. that is open to allowing facts and logic to affect change that possibly could achieve consensus if the fact and logic are sufficiently persuasive to enough peeps.

The status quo is that bitcoin is not broken, and accordingly, if you want to change bitcoin, then you have burdens to present evidence and logic to show how improvements can be made.. that is not reign of the status quo, but instead a recognition that making it too easy to change the status quo could in itself possibly ruin they decentralized and immutable and disruptive system that already exists (aka bitcoin)




Who gives a shit...?   Think whatever you like, and by the way, there are all kinds of coins in which you can attempt to build a network and to employ the values that you believe should be part of bitcoin but that the vast majority of current bitcoin does not believe (or at least you have not been able to achieve consensus with your nonsense propositions of supposed free thinking)




I heard that there is going to be a hardfork in mid november... seems like force to me.  How is that not force?  Small group of people attempting to sabotage (or they say "change" bitcoin").  




BCH is not good enough?  Oh you want another fork because BCH does not seem to be working?  Each or these seem to be various minority and loud mouth whiner attacks, rather than genuine attempts to create a better bitcoin.




I am moaning?  I thought that I was asking the newbie nutjob bigblocker to clarify his stupid ass questions, and you seem to want to come in here and to engage in some white knighting support of the bigblocker nutjob case.  Is there something else going on?  

Oh yeah, the something else is to blame me for your nonsense ideas and the nonsense questions of the earlier poster... ?    



Thanks for permission, and who is even talking about that kind of freedom to transact and freedom to chose chains, except for your just raising this issue now?  Actually freedom to transact and to chose chains is a given (well except for the tricky lack of replay protection that is likely to confuse a trick some folks out of their preferred coins, no?)



Huh?  Of course, there can be various kinds of forced changes in all kinds of ways in this world of ours, and in the end we make choices about how we want to deal or not deal with the various changes whether the changes are forced or not.  So possibly in the end, I am not referring to anything about myself being forced, and in that regard, you seem to be changing the topic and engaging in a bit of red herring argumentation.


Hint:  You sound like you don't know what the fuck you are talking about.  I was merely making a comment about a post in a thread.  I am not pushing any agenda, but I was asking someone to clarify the bullshit, vague and nonsensical assertions, and in the process of my attempting to clarify, I made a few statements that would at least attempt to put us in realistic parameters rather than talking about fantasy pie in the sky assertions that are neither based on facts, logic or even reasonable/probable expectations.  


who said that I am scared?  They are engaging in a renegade attack and they are going to do what the fuck they want, and all I am doing is describing the attack for what it is.  If they were actually engaged in some kind of reasonable attempt at competition, then maybe they would have fixed up the fucked up BCH fork or maybe they would not have done the BCH fork, and this additional fork is merely confusing and an attempt to dilute bitcoin in the off chance (less than 1% perhaps) that they might be successful.

And, so in the end, I personally am just going to roll with the punches, including calling the bullshit for what it is and also likely going to witness some pumping of the real bitcoin after the market plays out for a while and realizes that the real bitcoin is not going to be undermined by such additional attack and such additional uncertainties that are still involved in the exact nature of the attack and including the extent to which replay protection is going to be possible, whether folks are going be tricked by the lack of replay protection and/or the extent to which some folks (including miners) might be tricked into supporting a likely doa... renegade fork...   Yeah,,,, just because there is a lot of bullshit and a bunch of unknowns that yet have to play out, that does not mean that I, personally, should be embracing the onslaught of such disruption, or do you believe otherwise?




You sound like you are just making shit up in order to attempt to make this nonsense about me and about some preset "religious" red herring argument of your own creation, rather than the lack of merit in any of your points.

This is not religious.. get it in your head.  The hardforker attackers are lacking in facts or logic to merit their attack and they are not willing or able to work within the existing bitcoin system, and therefore they are set upon attacking from without while attempting to act as if they are the "saviors of bitcoin."  Again, more nonsense.