Quote from: Hyperme.sh on October 21, 2017, 10:43:56 PM

Quote from: CoinHoarder on October 19, 2017, 10:27:56 PM

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Ironically, most "truthers" get angsty when I start question their theories. Isn't that the point of being a truther... questioning what you've learned about everything everywhere?

I welcome any person with a strong functioning brain stem and reasonably decent IQ to listen the PhDs and scholars I linked to and the evidence and argument that Mossad did 9/11 and then I doubt none of them can rationally make good arguments against the theory.

Of course most people are too lazy/busy to expend 3 - 4 hours digesting the videos as I did, and also because theyve seen so much crap in the past about UFOs, reptilians, and other diversionary disinformation crap that was ostensibly injected by Mossad to create confusion and discredit the truth.

Quote from: CoinHoarder on October 19, 2017, 10:27:56 PM

I am saying that potentially you are wrong about who created Bitcoin. There have been so many different people that have been called Satoshi Nakamoto before, with all sorts of proof in each case. Now you think you've solved it? Think about how crazy you sound to the old timers that have heard the "Satoshi Was Found" story 100 times by now. You do appear to have some proof, but as far as I can tell, you and I both will most likely never know who Satoshi was. There is not a way to prove you wrong, just as there is not any way to prove that you aren't wrong. So please stop asking me to do so. Maybe you are right? I can't prove either way...

Criminal investigators look for motive, capability, and strong circumstantial/corroborating evidence. I found all three. All other prior attempts to identify Satoshi were diversionary disinformation crap that was ostensibly injected by Mossad to create confusion and discredit the truth.

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Quote from: CoinHoarder on October 19, 2017, 10:27:56 PM

IMO, SHA256 (and possibly Scrypt) as a hashing method is done as far as I'm concerned if this attack goes down, and so is any cryptocurrency that uses it. If this attack happens, then I will sell every single SHA256 token I have, and I will spend a very long time trying to convince people of that being the only way to punish the thugs that attacked Bitcoin. Let the bag holder's (miners/whales) be stuck with useless and valueless bags (usless mining hardware or effectively valueless tokens).

I dont think so. BTC will become stronger (after some collapse in price and recovery) because it remained immutable as no Core thugs were able to monopolize the mutation of the blockchain for their bankster masters who funded them. Whereas BCH was an airdrop not a hard fork. The point being that the free market should decide which mutation is valuable, by making them all airdrops and not the anointing one over the others by some NYA of whales. Nevertheless, I think the entire Core thuggery is really just a Hegelian dialectic by design, to take BTC from sheep when immutability is ultimately restored. Again this is not a certain outcome nor is the timing certain. I reiterate this is a speculative interpretation of what I perceive may be the reality behind the curtain so to speak, although technological facts are in the open for anyone to analyse. Of course, my speculation could end up entirely incorrect or it could happen years from now when everyone has long since concluded I was smoking my own Koolaid.

Quote from: https://hackernoon.com/why-the-brazilian-and-argentinian-bitcoin-communities-oppose-segwit2x-801edc213af8

the very nature of an agreement between a few parties in a decentralized consensus protocol can be interpreted as an aggression against the network.

My speculative perspective is that Core are the thugs and I will celebrate when this reality becomes apparent to everyone. Sheep are slow to learn, but the whales already know what is coming and why.

The SegWit theft will correct the thuggery and punish all those stupid enough to trust thugs.

Politics is rule by the manipulated sheep mob, i.e. thuggery by proxy. It is what we are trying to eliminate with decentralization.

Marting Armstrong explained:

Quote from: https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/products_services/products/one-world-currency-report-is-not-included-in-the-wec/

The Silver Democrats virtually bankrupted the nation because they were paid off by the silver minors who had them overvalue silver at 16:1 to gold when in fact the ratio was more in the area of 133:1 at that time (1884 211,080 $20 gold coins v 28,136,000 $1 silver dollar coins).

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If we look at the entire imports of gold and silver from America to Spain as reported by Earl J. Hamilton, we see 5.8 million ounces of gold compared to 545.4 million ounces of silver. This shows the real silver to gold ratio was 93.31 to 1. Indeed, just after World War I, this ratio soared to 120:1.

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Quote from: http://historymatters.gmu.edu/d/5354/

If they dare to come out in the open field and defend the gold standard as a good thing, we shall fight them to the uttermost, having behind us the producing masses of the nation and the world. Having behind us the commercial interests and the laboring interests and all the toiling masses, we shall answer their demands for a gold standard by saying to them, you shall not press down upon the brow of labor this crown of thorns. You shall not crucify mankind upon a cross of gold.

The Silver Democrats, led by William Jennings Bryan (1860-1925) and his famous speech against the Gold Standard, overvalued silver on a ratio to gold at 16:1, which led to massive arbitrage. Silver poured into the country and gold fled. This
unsound finance led to the virtual bankruptcy of the USA by 1896.

This is when JP Morgan came to the rescue and arranged for a gold loan to bailout the US Treasury. It was Morgan who made every effort to raise the stature of the United States in dealings in London. Indeed, by 1914, that was the final peak in the pound and thanks to World War I, Britain had found itself deeply in debt. The British pound had collapsed in value against the dollar significantly moving into 1920.

There are those pesky Zionists always creating false flags Hegelian dialectics (i.e. their manufactured crisis requires their solution) by manipulating the willful ignorance of the sheep. Yet Armstrong turns a blind-eye:

Quote from: https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/products_services/products/one-world-currency-report-is-not-included-in-the-wec/

There has been a longstanding view that the Bible warns of a One-World-Currency. It has been a prophecy that many expect to unfold. This report is not based upon the Bible or any such prophecy. Nevertheless, if this report tends to warn of this possibility, keep in mind it is purely based on politics and economics and nothing more. Presented here is an economic review, not a conspiracy theory nor a religious prophecy.

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Whatever the government needs to do to retain power, they will do without any comprehension of the long-term implication of their actions. Many people attribute way too much to those in power with their grand conspiracy theories. What they fail to understand is what is there is nobody in charge, and we are merely riding a train with no engineer? That is the real outcome of government action going forward. Its worse than any conspiracy theory for we head into the unknown even for government and the elite.

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Here are a few more excerpts which support my recent retort of @realr0ach about why gold is dead as money at least in terms of a medium-of-exchange:

Quote from: https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/products_services/products/one-world-currency-report-is-not-included-in-the-wec/

People have become distracted and wrongly focused attention upon what has served as money rather than was is the function of money

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Much of this confusion has been the result of focusing on what physically is serving as money from the barter origin.

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Historically, many societies have agreed upon different objects. Even the names we use today for the various currencies of different nations reflect different historical objects.

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Keep in mind that gold at this point was rare, too rare to truly serve as money. It is found largely as jewelry in tombs of royal dignitaries. Gold begins to appear only around 5000-4500BC. It is NOT used as money during this period. The medium of exchange is evolving from grain, cattle, and sheepskins into bronze.

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Gold was viewed as a very precious object. Religiously, gold was believed to have been the tears of the sun god. In Egypt, this was the god Ra.

Consequently, gold was rare and was to be the exclusive property of the king and priests. It never made it as a medium of exchange until the 6th century BC after about 2,000 years of use as adornment.

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As long as gold was too rare it was only suited for ornamentation for kings. With gold becoming much more common, then it became a very valued object. Suddenly the lower classes could now possess an object that was once suited only for kings. This contributed greatly to the allure of owning gold.

Consequently, the idea that gold is money and always has been is simply wrong. The foundation of the monetary system will always remain a barter economic system. The value of the medium of exchange has to be established by demand and has been different throughout the ages as well as regions.

The following supports my philosophical writings about the value of the Inverse Commons instead of fungible unit-of-account in the coming Knowledge Age:

Quote from: https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/products_services/products/one-world-currency-report-is-not-included-in-the-wec/

Another tremendous misconception is that money is wealth itself rather than simply the medium of exchange that is the gateway to wealth. We must understand this distinction if we are to look to create a new monetary system in the future. Wealth is NOT in the least a medium of exchange, but the objects for which exchange takes place. The medium of exchange facilitated trade and it has evolved into a mental concept of what we call the Unit of Account. In other words, the Unit of Account is the mental concept of how we measure wealth, yet it is simultaneously, not actual wealth itself.

I also wrote a blog a couple months ago about the coming one-world currency:

https://steemit.com/money/@anonymint/get-ready-for-a-world-currency

Armstrong continued to make similar arguments to his recent public blogs which I had refuted:

Quote from: https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/products_services/products/one-world-currency-report-is-not-included-in-the-wec/

The number one problem with cryptocurrencies is the idea that they can be the alternative to government. Yet you will still have to sell them at some point to pay your taxes, rent, and to buy food. Moreover, the government is not about to lay down and surrender to the world of cryptocurrency and just let people avoid taxation. That is NEVER going to happen. So we have to look at this issue no different than anything else because we are dealing with a governmental power.

Armstrong does not seem to understand that public distributed ledgers are the best tax tracking devices every designed. Theyre a gift to the governments, which is why governments even such as Russia are embracing them:

Quote from: Hyperme.sh on October 22, 2017, 07:15:37 AM

Quote from: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-17/russia%E2%80%99s-crypto-ruble-just-changed-game

By taxing crypto-rubles at the capital gains rate for those that cannot provide a paper-trail of ownership, Russia and Putin are incentivizing the development of low-cost crypto-payment systems to exchange rubles for goods only in cryptocurrencies that also track ownership, like Ethereum and others that have transparent blockchain histories.

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The crypto-ruble provides the means by which to convert, transaction-cost-free, back into the national fiat currency to pay bills, taxes and the like. This is in direct opposition to how the U.S., for example, treats cryptocurrencies.

The 2014 I.R.S. rule that classified Bitcoin as property means that every Bitcoin transaction, no matter how minor, creates a potential capital gains event. It means that buying a cup of coffee at Starbucks in Bitcoin is taxable for both the person buying the coffee (capital gains on the sale) and Starbucks when they go to sell those Bitcoins, buy dollars and pay salaries, order supplies, etc.

Its why the capital that has moved into cryptocurrencies isnt moving back out. Its why the ICO market has exploded. Billions in profits actively looking for new investment opportunities without paying taxes.

Its also the main reason why Amazon, for example, doesnt take Bitcoin. Who wants that hassle?

Can you imagine Amazons Schedule D if it accepted Bitcoin?

The crypto-rubles structure dispenses with that for those that can prove ownership via the blockchain. Bitcoin allows for transaction transparency, so does Ethereum, Litecoin and many others.

Armstrong seems to address Russias creation of a cryptocurrency:

Quote from: https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/products_services/products/one-world-currency-report-is-not-included-in-the-wec/

Central banks around the world are now very seriously looking into creating Cryptocurrencies. After all, the vast amount of the economy transactions are electronic to begin with. The existence of cash in physical form is what they are trying to eliminate to force everyone on the grid in order to increase tax collection. There is no question that we will be looking at this as the next evolutionary step forward in the monetary system. The problem people do not grasp is that government can easily outlaw private cryptocurrencies and declare it as money laundering that avoids taxes. They will be 25 years in prison and the first person they prosecute will be held up as an example to scare the life out of everyone else.

But the mistake I believe Armstrong is making, which was explained my Steemit blog about the coming one-world currency, is that nation-states and even groupings of them (e.g. G5) cant agree on anything and thus they will each end up with their own attempt to create a cryptocurrency none of which can be the globally accepted one.

Thus I posit the free market will possibly anoint Bitcoin because its the only one that is not controlled by any one nation. And the nations will acquiesce to Bitcoin as the king eventually, because of course they want to eliminate cash.

This brings me back once again to my theory that Bitcoin was created by the Zionists to drive the nation-states into submission to a global currency which no nation can control and which ends cash. And which in the end game, the Zionists entirely control per the flaws in proof-of-work as the transaction fees become great and the protocol block reward (i.e. the inflation due to debasement) diminishes as I had explained in previous posts.

I believe the Zionists are employing their institutions (which are also decoys) to bring this to fruition:

Quote from: https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/products_services/products/one-world-currency-report-is-not-included-in-the-wec/

Make no mistake about it; the IMF has been at the heart of hunting down the underground economy. The IMF took the lead in threatening tax havens to give up all people hiding money or suffer the same fate as Iran expulsion from the SWIFT transfer system. That would mean no money in or out. The IMF even threatened the Vatican that if it did not report all money movements, then it too would be sanctioned and removed from the SWIFT system.

The IMF has been at the forefront of shutting down the world underground economy so that tax collection can be effective. We even find that the International Monetary Fund in Washington published a Working Paper on de-cashing the economies of the world and what the implications would be.

This IMF Working Paper stands as a clear warning of the future direction of the world economy. The IMF has been providing advice to governments who want to join in the latest authoritarian maneuver abolishing cash to eliminate the underground economy.

The IMF recommends in its conclusion to this paper that although some countries most likely will de-cash in a few years, going completely cashless should be phased in steps.

Armstrong pointed to money launder felonies, but my recent research indicates that the recipient had to have knowledge that the money was used in committing a crime and also appears the felonies only apply in the USA:

Quote from: https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/products_services/products/one-world-currency-report-is-not-included-in-the-wec/

The problem people do not grasp is that government can easily outlaw private cryptocurrencies and declare it as money laundering that avoids taxes. They will be 25 years in prison and the first person they prosecute will be held up as an example to scare the life out of everyone else.

Governments have to be wary of attacking decentralized ledgers because the users may simply defy the government and the government may be incapable of prosecuting every case.

Armstrong reiterated his coming short/strong dollar vortex:

Quote from: https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/products_services/products/one-world-currency-report-is-not-included-in-the-wec/

This is adding to the crisis we see on the horizon and a dollar rally will set off a debt crisis like nobody has ever seen in more than 100 years. Private debt among emerging markets is almost about $1.6 trillion with maturity due to foreign creditors over the next five years. It looks like about 90% of this debt is in US dollars.

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So the short dollar position is indeed a WORLDWIDE issue. It will be very interesting to see when the dollar begins to rise once again. Dollar borrowers the world over will indeed have a religious experience of Biblical proportions! The higher the dollar moves, the greater the pressure will be applied to revising the world monetary system.

Armstrong wrote about how the IMF SDRs are unlikely to become the one-world reserve currency because it requires that people are willing to buy the bonds and issue loans in that unit-of-account.

Thus the only way to bring about a one-world reserve currency is what I pointed out in my blog. There must be a popular catalyst that is outside the control of the nation-states, thus cryptocurrency is that likely catalyst either directly or as a threat to the nation-states that causes them to acquiesce to the SDRs.

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Quote from: John Titor on October 22, 2017, 01:41:44 PM

Don't care, you are delusional

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I am not sure about anything w.r.t. to the world view. But I can not refute the PhD & scholars compelling evidence that Mossad did 9/11 and the corruption in WW2 to create the Zionist state. Doesnt mean I believe in UFOs, reptilians, and other disinformation from non-scholars.

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People believe what they want to believe. Sheep like to ignore opportunities to separate from the herd and prefer to feel safe in the herd even when they are being harvested.

I have vacillated over the past 16 years on the global elite conspiracy theme. I became burned out on it for several years and was tired of listening to nutcases rail on and on about chemtrails, reptilians, etc.. But then recently I decided to watch some videos produced by PhDs and scholars about the evidence and arguments that Mossad did 9/11. And frankly, I can not refute that very compelling exposition.

Do you really believe that 9/11 was done by some Arabs who could not fly airplanes well in flight school who boarded the planes with box cutters (yet our government refuses to release the full length of the surveillance videos same as in the recent Las Vegas massacre). What is your explanation of this event ^{(other than to just ignore it and focus on the ass of the sheep in front of you)}?

I have an inquisitive mind.

I am interested in understanding the Zionists as it may pertain to what type of monetary systems, laws, and regulations we are headed into, so that my altcoin project has taken this into account as much as possible. Its actually a very responsible action I am undertaking.

The following is the same concept as Nashs Ideal Money, as FOFOAs free gold concept, and what I mentioned in my blog. The problem is that no one knows how to achieve a reserve currency that wont be (even if surreptitiously) centrally controlled and thus eventually abused!

Quote from: https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/products_services/products/one-world-currency-report-is-not-included-in-the-wec/

In the instant case, we will need to create a neutral Reserve Currency that is free from domestic political conflicts such as the Democrats v Republicans in the USA. It must also be free of CONTAGIONS due to issues that may be nearby as took place with Britain during the 1920s. We will need all exchange in goods globally to be between two independent currencies converted through the independent Reserve Currency. Therefore, all commodities instead of trading in dollars will be traded in this new NEUTRAL Reserve Currency.

The reason this is so important is because who ever controls the one-world reserve currency can basically turn the world into slaves via debt similar to what is happening to Greece now and what will happen to the entire world soon due to the short dollar vortex underway:

https://gist.github.com/shelby3/c192cedaed52ef11ef97acb239dc5986#euro-is-a-monetary-enslavement-paradigm

Send this to Armstrong!

Apparently UAE Central Bank Governor has not read this report from UK Treasury citing Bitcoin as LOW Money Laundering Risk. And Cash as #1!

https://twitter.com/BitfuryGeorge/status/922895431029477376

IMF Head Foresees the End of Banking and the Triumph of Cryptocurrency:

https://fee.org/articles/imf-head-predicts-the-end-of-banking-and-the-triumph-of-cryptocurrency/