I can hook you up with a loan if need be. trying to figure out who you where on seals. Yeah I didn't think of shutting down my computer to close whatever application running I closed of out client and when tried to delete said still open so that was confusing. What about the run as administrator what is that all about when I right click as was suggested don't want to do it until know what that function does. GOod going posting this link on 2 plus 2. God Hate win 8.