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Board Announcements (Altcoins)
Re: [ANN][HLM] HELIUM - PRE NOTICE
by
nitego
on 05/11/2017, 02:25:31 UTC
Need updates here.  Im sure this project is on point but lack of communication makes it smell fishy.  I have a tiny fear that these guys just bought a bunch of spr early on and this whole thing was a manufactured pump and dump for spr.  

I don't think it's a scam, coins101 has a very good reputation. But yes, the communication is a disaster. It's only after someone here raises a big stink that we get any progress information. I can't understand what's so hard about writing a bi-weekly update, even if you have a day job. This is especially galling as they claim to do "Agile Development" in the ANN post. Now I work as an agile coder and frequent and timely communication is one of the top obligations of an agile team. Just as a reminder, there's an agile manifesto, and it says (among other things; emphasis mine):


Our highest priority is to satisfy the customer
through early and continuous delivery
of valuable software.

Business people and developers must work
together daily
throughout the project.


Honestly thinking about dumping all HLM once they can be traded and get out of this. Should have bought into Crown - team is also a split-off from SPR and they have a working masternode coin and service nodes and all the nice stuff.

DEVS: Please, you are doing your own project a huge disservice claiming Agile when you rarely communicate, your github is empty and you have no MVP to show. I bought into this not least because of your reputation and the Agile claim (which is rare enough). I confess I am losing hope by what I see instead. At least strike the Agile claim, it rubs it in every time I read it.



This this this. Really undermines the confidence in the team when they make such claims and completely fail at it right from the get go. Or maybe they're doing 3 month sprints.  Grin


As someone who has signed this manifesto since 2005 and worked on various Agile projects. I like to say it is not quite the same for this Project as these "Customers" have no feedback into the backlog or requirements and are really not owed any update as they are not "stakeholders" in the sense they do not pay for the Project nor have they determined what Helium should be or is. Updates are usually given to Customers to manage the backlog or establish priorities.

When Helium is launched and the governance is in place and you as a Masternode holder has made a vote on a Project, maybe then you can demand updates because you determined what should be done as a Stakeholder.

Helium uses the Agile method of development does not mean they should be accountable to everyone. Accountability is to Stakeholders. If Google where to design a open source tool for everyone or anyone, using Agile methods does that give everyone off the street a right to an update?  I think not. When you pay the piper you call the tune, until then sit tight and relax.

"When you pay the piper you call the tune" - I m not sure of your situation, but I am not having a free ride here, I paid my way for HLM, it didn't just appeared in my account for free of charge.

The updates are important. That is the part of PR which make or break a project/company/organisation. There are many other project, many other opportunity. Why would a customer/stakeholder stay with one which leave them in the dark? People want to know what happen with their money. Helium is a good and promising project, but I am a bit worried it will be killed by the inadequacy of PR/communication in the medium run.

Technically you paid for "Spreadcoin" and you already have that in your wallet. How exactly do you pay for a coin that is not launched yet when there was no ICO. Look at your order details or transaction id. You need to check your understanding of Projects you "pay for"
Updates are important especially relevant ones. All I am saying if you caught the vision of the project based on words hold the faith and wait for them to deliver. You may want to join the Slack. Like I keep saying good applications = good codes= adequate/good testing and it all takes time. We are almost there, its not long now. (however long it takes we are still closer than we were last month)