hey thanks for everyone's reply's

well as Ive seen so far the S9 does seem to have a lot more due to failures but has a good ratio for speed and power consumption that keeps it in a good margin for a profitable investment but due to it only probably lasting for a couple of months before it burns out I am thinking of ditching out the extra money and extra cost for power and upgrading to a T9 if I go for mining Bitcoin anyways which I have more experience using instead of mining lite coin

I have being using a rig with I7 4790k 20gb ram and a gtx 970 for mining and it doesn't make much and I do understand that it only is pushing 4gb of video but how much would I actually push if I invested say for a 8gb card putting me at 12 gb total on video would that even bring me anything close to the speeds as an S9 T9 or L3 ?

As for what Floppy disk said as advising me to the L3+ which I am giving some thought due to its low power consumption and profitable gains my only draw back is the trust and knowledge of mining lite coin as well as its volatility and how it may change ?


any more advise is great and appreciate thanks again and I will be ready for once one of the new batches comes out just basically trying to pin point an exact one