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I don't deny the possibility of some sort of being that created the universe and I can't disprove that. Religious gods on the other hand are always garbage.
the bible is extremely easy to prove wrong, I already showed you many examples of it's big big flaws. For instance, humans, God made humans purposely imperfect and then they failed by eating the fruit he told them not to, this already makes no sense if your god is omniscient and omnipotent. From there we have the same problems trough the whole bible
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Given the length of this exchange a summary of what we have discussed so far is warranted.
Upthread I highlighted how we can mathematically deduce The Incompleteness of the universe and logically conclude that whatever is outside the universe must be boundless, immaterial, indivisible and an uncaused cause.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1373864.msg23796852#msg23796852I next highlighted how religious thought specifically monotheism conceptualises God and how this conceptualisation is consistent with what we can mathematically deduce.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1373864.msg24187846#msg24187846I also demonstrated how traditional Biblical writings on the timeline of creation and origins of mankind can in fact be reconciled with modern scientific thought.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1373864.msg24374030#msg24374030I reviewed the limitations of reason in understanding infinity and the fact that our understanding of God must necessarily be a massive oversimplification. God can never truly be grasped through our mind as our mind is time-bound.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1373864.msg24330562#msg24330562Finally I noted the importance of truly drilling down to the foundations of ones metaphysical assumptions and how failure to do so was ceding control of ones actions, beliefs and thoughts to external forces.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1373864.msg24418501#msg24418501At this point you asked to start the conversation over again.
Ok, let's start again.
We returned to the logic that allows us to mathematically deduce the incompleteness of the universe and reviewed it in greater depth reducing that logic down to its three primary assumptions. These assumptions are reasonable and currently not disprovable. I invited you try.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1373864.msg24665515#msg24665515https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1373864.msg24791749#msg24791749Finally I outlined how one could make the case for God using an entirely empirical argument. You have chosen to ignore this argument.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1373864.msg24814642#msg24814642Now it appears you are returning to attempts to challenge the existence of God by challenging the consistency of traditional holy texts. I have already demonstrated how traditional biblical writings on the timeline of creation and origins of mankind can in fact be reconciled with modern scientific thought and in response you appear have shifted your focus of criticism of the story of Adam and Eve.
Please clarify what exactly in biblical account of Adam and Eve are you objecting and why you feel this objection disproves God.
Why do you feel that humanity's flaws are evidence against an omniscient and omnipotent creator?
I have already shattered the ''logic'' used by perry marshall and you don't want to accept that. You are telling me that after 20 assumptions belief in god is logical, well my friend, that doesn't make much sense now, does it?
It's fairly simple, if god is omnipotent and omnipresent then there is no point for any of this, no point for humans to be waiting for god to comeback, why would he? No point in living this life because he already knows whether someone would go to hell or heaven. Adam and eve make no sense, how did they fail? Didn't they fail because god made them that way? If god knew they would fail, why make them and then punish them for something he already know would happen? It's garbage, you like logic so much, how is this logical to you?
Not to mention all the scientific errors in the bible + all the contradictions that I linked before.