I guess pre-ico finally live.
Does anyone know how much they raised already?
I don't think pre-sale has started yet. I'm checking telegram regularly but so far I haven't read about the opening of the payment channel.
Oh, I think that's where some of the confusion has come in. Some people are making it sound like pre-sale is done, and others that it hasnt started

private pre sale activities, now we normal investor only can get some information through the grapevine. and don't know which one is right