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Re: [ANN][ICO] «Envion» Most Profitable Self-Expanding Crypto Infrastructure
by
fm1984
on 30/11/2017, 20:00:06 UTC
@ Envion

I appreciate your replies but I still have questions. Always looking for good investment, but I am still not convinced. Just wanna say that I am blocked to on your Telegram, your people there are very impolite, they do not answer my question and kicked me out. I was very friendly, but I guess you have something to hide.

I do not think your company is a scam, but I am convinced you are in over your head. I expect delays and broken promises. Maybe in one year your company will be interesting to invest in...

Postponing an ICO is a very bad sign in my opinion... Serious business keeps its deadlines.

That is very nice that you have a ´big bank´investing in crypto, good for you. Would be nice to know which bank! Especially when we in the crypto world know how banks are big fans of cryptocurrency.

Secondly still no answer on where your metal boxes with hot miners will be stationed. Are you planning on putting some next to solar power plant some where with a lot of sun? Where it is hot and not 26 °C, the temperature you mention in WP. Before you say, read the white paper, I have. You talk about using the heat for other purposes but how about performance in hot and humid area´s. Do you have any test done? Where are the results?

WP says: ´Converting our MMU’s waste heat into a system where thermal energy is useful provides savings which are directly proportional to the amount of electrical energy being converted by the MMU. Heating expenses, before and after installation of a MMU inside a heated warehouse or greenhouse, can thus be easily assessed and the savings on heating the building can be directly deducted from the MMU’s electricity bill. This creates another unique competitive advantage for the envion MMU over conventional mining farms, which are typically installed in remote areas and thus unable to recycle their massive amounts of thermal energy.´

So you gonna put the MMU inside buildings? Who is gonna pay for that?


Secondly, are you putting people, engineers in the containers for maintaining the facility? WP says ´There are fully automated systems in place which detect defective rigs, based on IP address and rig denotations, so that any maintenance worker is able to locate defective hardware within a very limited amount of time.´

So if you have ANY mining experience you should know that a person on the ground is mandatory. All your WP says, you have fancy sensors, but who is going to fix the miners that are broken? Where are your engineers located? Who is paying them?

Last, your WP claims you can fit up to 96 ASIC miners in one MMU( container), so what is going to happen when this miners are outdated? In the current situation it is very likely that every 6  to 9 months new companies will come with more efficient miners. So if a miner would cost 1000$ (very optimistic projection) you will have to spend 96 000 $ to update your MMU. Who is paying that?




ENVION ICO ANNOUNCEMENT // CHANGE OF DATE

Envion evolves to higher levels, expands participation and new ICO date

The founders of envion are postponing the start of the ICO until the 15th of December in order to open the ICO to a broader public, lay the foundation for future top-level cooperations and make it the most cross-border compliant ICO so far.

Large institutions, among them sovereign funds and one of the largest banks of the world approached us with very large deals in the weeks following envion’s ICO announcement. A prerequisite to these partnerships is that envion meets the same high level of compliance with securities laws that these customers are used to. We decided to meet even higher standards and an international, cross-border old economy compatible prospectus to take advantage of these offers.

We are still coordinating with different law firms in many jurisdictions to prepare our prospectuses. Even though it is not required to have these prospectuses to conduct our ICO, envion has decided to act in the best interest of token holders and change the ICO start date to ensure that the deals described above can be closed without delay.
Advantages for token holders:

    • Swiss users can take part in the ICO without restriction
    • EVN tokens should be tradable at official and licensed US exchanges
    • Banks and other financial institutions can more easily create cooperation models with envion and increase token holder profits
    • envion lays the foundation for top-level cooperations
    • EVN token on the way to be the best regulated security token so far — broader market — higher value potential
    • Even better ROI due to Third-Party Operation business

NEW ICO DATES FOR THE ENVION ICO

Envion is sure that the inconvenience of waiting a few days to invest will not outweigh the great positive factors. To make sure our trusted ICO community does not get overshadowed by these big players, we will not involve them in the ICO, but instead have them participate later to follow through on our approach of decentralization by widest possible participation. Also, production and deployment of MMUs from the ICO will come first, before any others.
We want to remind you that the start date is the only change to the ICO. Everything else will remain the same:

    • the terms of the ICO
    • tokens and smart contracts
    • dividend payouts
    • envion’s Mobile Mining Units
    • the dates for production and payouts.

Moving up the compliance ladder will attract larger tickets and strengthen envion and your investment. Future top level cooperations are advantageous for token holders because it increases envion’s competitiveness and expands the potential of Third-Party Operations to grow in scale — the business division with the largest potential for long-term profits where token holders get an additional percentage from, which is not included in the calculations we have shown.
Top-level cooperation benefits

    • Greater global market share attracts better deals for higher profits
    • More resources to invest in innovation
    • Finance business development

Envion is a startup on the path to becoming a global enterprise. The envion team has faith that the 70,000 investors registered for the presale, the 7,000-strong Telegram community, and our one million website visitors — in just one month! — will see the wisdom of this decision and meet us for an even bigger ICO pre-sale on December 15th.