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Re: Moving to Cloudflare
by
Ivor Biggun
on 07/12/2017, 22:11:53 UTC
Why not charge Tor and VPN users a small bitcoin fee to log in? Most of those users would probably rather pay a  fee than use cloudflare. They already have to pay a fee to register.

A fee to log in!?  Are you serious?

N.b. that (a) the move behind Cloudflare at the end of November is absolutely irrelevant to login issues, discussed separately since October; (b) everybody’s connections go through Cloudflare, for every connection to the site; and (c) Tor users (among others) are already charged a fee to create an account.

Theymos said he's unenthusiastically using Cloudflare to protect against DDoS attacks. I assume some of those attacks come through Tor and VPN users. Those users couldn't DDoS if they had to pay a tiny fee to login, and further fees if they make excessive HTTP requests. They are already prepared to pay a registration fee for privacy, charging small log in fees isn't much different.

Furthermore, charging a fee for excessive HTTP requests could protect against botnet DDoS attacks from regular IP addresses. Normal users wouldn't even notice because they don't make huge numbers of HTTP requests.

I guess most of the accounts involved in DDoSing are newbies. During times of excessively heavy load on the forum newbie accounts could be asked to either pay a small log in fee, or return later when there's less users accessing the system.