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Re: Now that BITCOIN hits the 18K$ USD LEVEL.... When will this GIANT BUBBLE burst?
by
nullius
on 19/12/2017, 08:34:53 UTC
Bitcoin is already too expensive and definitely a giant bubble, not question about that. I'm looking at Mycelium wallet and just can't believe that "normal" transaction fee is 16.89 USD/byte?! Add in/out fees (for example ATM fees 6%+, LocalBitcoin premium approx. 7%, bank wire at exchanges approx. min $20) When I started using BTC it was free to send them, after that it was symbolic, now... it's not even competitive to classic payment systems.

How are fees relevant to the question of whether or not Bitcoin’s valuation is in a bubble?  Do you know how Bitcoin works?  Also, Bitcoin fees are not denominated in USD/byte.

Leaving aside spam attacks for the moment, fees are a proxy for network demand—in turn, a reasonable proxy for estimating demand for Bitcoin.  Transactions used to be free or cheap, because Bitcoin itself was widely considered to be a worthless toy.  This meant that blocks were almost empty.  What you are really complaining about is that Bitcoin is now valuable—not some supposition that it be falsely valued.  Blocks being full and fees being bid up are data points indicating the opposite of a bubble.

Also, what is the relevance of fees from other services (ATMs, LBC, bank fees (!))?  How can you blame Bitcoin for your bank’s wire transfer fees?



If I get a dollar for every person that will say bitcoin is a bubble then I'll be a millionaire by now. Bitcoin is not a bubble and I believe that its price now is cheaper compared on what it will be in the future.

If I had a satoshi for every time I’ve heard it said that Bitcoin is in a bubble, then in the future, I would be richer than you with your dollars.  Zing.