First, it is advisable to understand what you read before commenting on it.
According to those posts the tax rate seems to be reduced, classifying any conversion of coins as investment.
Thank you for this advice, I'll take it to heart.
I was answering a post, not the links, as I'm not a spanish speaker. If those 23% is actually a reduced rate it's even worse and I support my previous statement about them being greedy. I can't believe people used to pay more than 23% of their income to their government. To me it's slavery, but you can call it however you like.
But second:
Also I'm amazed that they have such high taxes for high income. 45% tax? WTF? It saddens me that Spain is ruled by socialists.
Im amazed that the people of other countries, namely the US and the like, can pay through nose for the services the people in Spain receive almost for free, but still not get even half the service people in Spain are getting, while living in perpetual risk of medical bankruptcy or peril of sending a kid to college amidst student loans reaching $100,000 ceiling, and yet then still criticize, and 'lament' the 'state of socialist countries'.
No amount of taxes you save in a non socialist country will save you when your private insurance bails out of paying for your necessities. Then, welcome, medical bankruptcy. Or, death.
https://www.themaven.net/theintellectualist/news/american-dies-after-coming-up-50-short-for-insulin-SS40PFVy_0eop_3N2Q_8VwSomething like that would end in a riot or a revolution in Spain.
Beyond that, to get the healthcare levels one can get in Spain you would pay around ~$10,000/year and then still be required to 'pay at the point of service' in the US. And then it wouldnt cover a lot of other things, and then it wouldnt be valid in all hospitals in all states, and then it would also always have the risk of insurance bailing out on you.
It saddens me that people can die out of being denied healthcare because they dont have enough money in US.
If only US was socialist enough...
And this is without touching things like free education, infrastructure, other social services and stuff.
So you're supporting socialism, did I read it right? I'm not putting the US on a pedestal here as it's still taking a huge part of your salary and not giving a lot in return. I'm rather looking the other way round as there are countries not far from Spain that still have free education and healthcare and aren't forcing you to give away 1/4 of your income, which turns to be over 1/3 if you add VAT. Do you really like the idea of depending on the government to provide these services? I'd rather have the money and the ability to pay at the time of need instead of letting others decide whether I do or do not.