thank you for all the comments - its v.usefull to hear everyones opinions when starting out

i have a miner on the way in a month as the gent said !

i will spend further time looking into Graphic cards,  i think if Proof Of Stake type transactions come into play in the future things will change dramitically

i know a lad who works for a big retailer laptops direct , so getting 1080 cards and bits is easy enough 


Could anyone experienced in mining altcoins and trading them for BTC on nicehash (or similar) please explain how it costs in, is it more effiecent than mining via asics