patience are not everything , if you think with only being patient you could reach the target of having profit through trading then you guys are wrong. everyone seems to be misleading to understand about the meaning of 'patience' in this matter , the real important role in trading are having a good skill to read the market situation wheter it's time to buy or sell due some big news that could affected the market? after that then you can go talking about patience to hold it a little longer or stop it to cut the loss.