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Re: [XPM]unofficial jhPrimeminer thread
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mumus
on 10/08/2013, 05:55:43 UTC
Hmm, on ypool block statistics ( http://ypool.net/stats.php?a=bd&nr=3981 ) the user

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mumusv6miner   15517   4521.7   0.69676

how he got 15k shares in one block that took less than 2 minutes to be found? he's have the biggest share count in ypools...
something special of his seting??

Fishy?

v4mumusminer 18083 5000.9 0.755724
mumusv6miner 14510 4928.9 0.714749

Remember, shares count for 40 blocks...

Yes, but no one else in the pool is getting anywhere near those stats.  That is a serious amount of horse power to get that kind of figure.  The closest is about 11000, but those two combined are 32000!  Looks out of place in the list of other miners.  Maybe I'm just being paranoid. Maybe there is a GPU version out there? Maybe he owns a server farm? Maybe we are all mining for him? Maybe  it isn't even him? Maybe I should shut up lol.
How effing stupid are you?  HOW are we mining for him???  In a quick look, he's found 9 out of last 30 blocks.  1.41-1.52 average per block x 30 blocks = 42.3-45.6 XPM.  If he'd been mining solo that'd be well over 90!  Sure looks to me like HE's mining for US.  (Prob shouldn't tell him, he'll quit the pool and then where are we?)

So what if he's running a VPS farm with 400 CPUs?  I know I am close to break-even, have earned 97XPM through the pool and my stats say I've found 9 blocks.  So I would have been bettter off if I'd been solo, but I'd not have had a constant income.  It's a trade off.

Thank you for the nice comments, I meant no ill will to Mumus or anyone else by my comments, I was theorising and you obviously missed my point.  There is no escaping that those stats do stand out.

The following is how sad and stupid I am,

How do we know that the compiled version that we have all downloaded contains the same source code as what has been posted on github?  Unless someone has taken the time to disassemble it? Then we don't.

So in theory, and I am not suggest this is the case, there could be some code in the miner we are all running that submits the odd share here or there to an account other than the one specified when you run it.  The odd share here or there times a couple of thousand miners? You do the maths.

This is how it is potentially possible that we are mining for him. What a ridiculously stupid idea though.

Again I was theorising around the possibilities of that vast power advantage those two users appear to have over everyone else.  It may not even be Mumus, and in which case the theory above is completely null and void.

Again I would like to apologise if I have caused offense.  I am no troll and that was not my intention.

that's exactly what I thought... it's a proprietary protocol and a proprietary miner, open sourced, yes, but we have no idea if the compiled version is the open source one... that discrepancy in the share count is eye catching.

 Smiley No hard feelings. I can understand your thinking and feelings.
I wish I could have one of those accounts.
But getting these result is no such a big deal. Using 50-100 instances of VPS can make this easily, when somebody has the guts to invest. Just check the other forum ("Primecoin High Performance"), some peoples are using enormous computing power to do solo mining. Actually these users with big hashing power just helps the pool to have less variance,  getting more  consistent income and less dependent on luck.
If you want to solve your concerns that the binary somehow submit shares to my account you may ask someone who trust to compile the code and publish it. jh00 can be one of them. I think everybody trusts him. Also with a sniffer or connection monitor (tcpview) can be easily discovered if the binaries behaves strangely. BTW, the idea is not that stupid, could be easily implemented, but I'm sure some of you already checked the binaries and would be discovered already. Anyway who don't trust the binaries used the code to compile for themselves.