so now after playing around for awhile ive found it ....there was space between the server and the port that cgminer didnt like at all
it seems when i typed in the server name in the host box i put a space after the server name(stratum+tcp://pool.fcpool.com) and multiminer added it to the argument
cgminer --scrypt --lookup-gap 2 -I 19 -g 1 -w 256 --thread-concurrency 21712 --gpu-engine 1050 --gpu-memclock 1400 --gpu-vddc 1.087 --temp-target 79 --auto-fan -T -o stratum+tcp://pool.fcpool.com :3334 -u noob.1 -p nub -d 0 -d 1 --scrypt --api-listen --api-port 4028 --api-allow W:127.0.0.1
and that why one coin was working and the other wasnt
hope that helps and thanks for the help
Awesome man you rock - thanks for narrowing that down. I'll figure out the exact output from cgminer/bfgminer when that is the case and show an appropriate dialog for it in MultiMiner.