Yeah that was interesting.  The bitmain website actually works (sometimes)

So Samsung is supposedly building new chips for rigs, bitcoin price is weaker..

Are the S9 a good buy (at this time for delivery in March).   I own a couple of them, and I think long term, not a get rich quick idea, they will make money, not at the $ 4000 ebay price, but at $ 2800 landed cost, I think over time I will make money on these things.

I guess a lot of it is where the coin will be in 6 months, 12 months from now.   If above $ 10k, should make money, if below $ 8k, maybe not..