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Re: MtGox withdrawal delays [Gathering]
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sturle
on 24/08/2013, 19:32:08 UTC
Page 50 of this thread iirc..
I see a report of a USD withdrawal there, but no date given.
It was given as "today" in the citation from "yesterday" in a post from August 21st.  Via some clever mathematics or a calendar, we can calculate the exact date to August 20th.  No date was given for the time of withdrawal.   A licence to transmit money in the USSA (the main problem) will probably solve the problem as well.
A USD withdraw processed any time after July is impossible, i'd like to see you confirm that date.
August 20th 2013.  There are many conformations of USD withdrawals after July.  Why do you think it is impossible to wire money to the USSA after July?  When I buy bitcoins from people in the USSA, I send the money through a bank.  This is OK, because banks are licensed money transmitters.

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Karpeles has been lying since March 28th about compliance.  The post below was 10 days after FinCEN guidance.  Registering an MSB is very easy, and he couldn't even take the time to do that.  Money transmitter licenses in all 50 states is difficult to attain in under a year, and is very expensive.

http://fincen.gov/statutes_regs/guidance/html/FIN-2013-G001.html

In Japan we discussed with the FSA ( http://www.fsa.go.jp/ ) and were told that our activity is fine as it is now. We are also working with authorities in Europe and US to ensure our activity is in line with local regulations.
Bullshit.
Why do you think this is bullshit?  They had done a few changes by then, on request from regulators.  Changes regarding AML requirements and discontinuation of redeemable codes (another popular withdrawal method I had forgotten about).  I assume this means they had actually talked to them.  This DHS seizure due to money transmitting is a bit far fetched at best.  MtGox were using Dwolla and banks as money transmitters in the USSA, and their only mistake was to use an account owned by a different company ad an intermediate when transferring funds to and from Dwolla.  This other company, Mutum Sigillum, were acting as money transmitter between MtGox and Dwolla.  This is IMHO a detail which is easy to overlook, and the DHS certainly overreacted.

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Oh and problems with banks?  Seems to be a persistent excuse from Karpeles. 

We are currently experiencing delays on EUR transfers of up to two weeks for larger transfers because of the daily limits imposed by our bank in Europe. We are currently negotiating larger limits with this bank and hope to be able to finally be back to regular delays by April.
Wow, those are some really long negotiations.  Must be the incompetence of a large multinational bank right?  Definitely not Mt.Gox.
It is a smallish bank in Poland.  The large multinational banks in Europe don't want to have anything to do with Bitcoin.  They are working on getting more, but this takes time.  It is important to MtGox he new bank understand what they are doing.  MtGox do not want to risk to have their new bank account closed or restricted.