Member of Silent Majority here:

TH have 40k chips on order. I personally saw the Bitsyncom order page with Amir's name and address as the person ordering the chips. I posted the pictures weeks ago.

Aside from the constant complaining from our script kiddie friends who live in their parent's basements, I'm sure the large majority of buyers are just quietly waiting and hoping to receive their boards as soon as possible.

Everyone in the bitcoin community are waiting for something guys. Everyone. The only people who aren't upset and frustrated about their orders are KNC miner buyers. I'm sure if we get beyond 9/02 without an order sent out, the guys at KNC will start getting a barrage of freaked out posts. TH and all of the other companies are to one degree or another, startups. How many startups have you given your money to in the past? Startups have growing pains, delayed shipments, logistical problems, and other unforeseen issues to tackle. I think that TH has done a pretty good job at working through the issues. They noted that the customer service aspects were lacking and they said that it will be fixed. All other areas look like they are doing the very best they can given the circumstances. The fact that they didn't spend all of the money we sent them showed shrewd planning on their part. Instead of spending nearly every penny they sent us on parts (their profit margin is very thin), they decided to hold off until they received tracking numbers from Bitsyncom. That has allowed them to have the funds available to refund the people who don't have the stomach to wait. However those refunds were processed (whether forced by Paypal or not), they had the foresight to keep some of the funds available so that you could get your refund. That money isn't pulled from some magical place by Paypal. It has to come from the Seller. Otherwise they freeze the Seller's account.

I don't know why certain individuals can't understand that we all are being screwed over by Bitsyncom (Yifu), TH included. Put yourself in Amir's place right now. I'm sure you will say that you would do everything differently and give some pie in the sky speech about how you would have used your own money to buy all of the parts and held everyone's funds in escrow, but that is not how a startup functions.

When you get right down to it, you guys just want to complain. I'm sure that when you get your boards, you'll complain about the quality of the packing material used or some such other bs.

Everyone that is on the fence about this: don't listen to these guys who say that we should all get refunds immediately. Not only would it cause great problems for TH, more importantly, it will harm everyone else who is waiting patiently for their boards.

If you want a refund, put in for a refund and stop filling this thread with garbage. We have said that for the last couple of months. File for your refund and leave everyone alone. Stop trying to convince everyone to join you, like some kid on a playground: "Is everyone with me? Let's get out of here!"

Yes difficulty is rising, but so is the price of BTC. Since it's inception, BTC has basically doubled in value each year. Think about what that would mean for next year. Not bad ROI. In addition to mining, I'm using a bot to trade BTC and it's doing very well. Diversification is the key to success in any investment.

We are all taking a chance on this together, and if we're right, we will do very well. If we are wrong, lesson learned. Don't invest money in something if you can't stomach losing it. Buy bonds or stock in Coca Cola. Like forex, BTC is for grown ups.