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Re: Ukraine..
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BSAlex
on 17/02/2018, 11:47:45 UTC
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I dont know 100% about this situation. But Russia caused much suffering. I hope things will get better there soon.
You are right about sufferings. Russian can't accept that we are a different country

I like Putin and Russia, But when it comes to Ukraine's sovereignty I have to  respect their sovereignty too. Because tomorrow some other big country can do the same to another small neighbor country justifying their invasion. I think all these happened due to western factor. Then Ukraine became victim between 2 super powers. This is a pathetic situation. I heard so many people already have died from the war. And we can remember mistakenly one group attacked the Malaysian passenger airplane with a rocket. Tragedy continued..horrible. 

Essentially what happened in Ukraine is a war between the two groups of Ukrainians (i.e the Western Ukrainians and the Eastern Ukrainians). It will be wrong to blame Putin for this. Obviously, he was supporting the Russian-speaking Eastern Ukrainians. But at the same time the Western Ukrainians were being supported by Angela Merkel and Donald Trump.

Please stop lying about a thing you do know nothing. The war was started by invasion of moskovite troops in Crimea, then russian citizens started to seize cities in Eastern Ukraine, killing and torturing people that voiced any complaints. Merciless rulers like Putin, Stalin, Hitler may seem effective from outside but God help you if you get on their way. Ukraine have made greatest contribution to nuke disarment giving away the third biggest nuclear arsenal in the world. World's powers give warranties of security but non of them provided military help when Russia invaded. Before russian invasion we have good chance to join NATO but nearly half of ukrainians thought we do not need it. Now at least 65% of ukrainians support our move to NATO membership but NATO must be dumb to accept country at war.

1. What happened in Crimea is different. Crimea is an autonomous republic and it made the decision to merge with Russia.
2. Russian citizens didn't seized cities in eastern Ukraine. 90% of the rebels were Ukrainian citizens.
3. Russia is the successor to the USSR. Just because the nuclear weapons were stationed in Ukraine, that doesn't mean that they don't belong to Russia.
4. NATO or EU will never accept a beggar nation such as Ukraine.
5. You weaken your argument by making ridiculous comparisons, such as the one in bolded letters.

1. In Crimea there was invasion and after that - a voting under guns of invaders. No free country in the world see in as a legitimate people's will expressed.
2. Again you are lying. Armed warfare was started by a group of mainly russian citizens led by Girkin who travelled to Donbass after sucsessful invasion in Crimea. Russian-made heavy arms where supplied by Russian State, including long-range AAM BUK that shot down Malaysian passenger aircraft.
3. If Russia is a successor to USSR it should be ready to pay for crimes conducted by the USSR in different countries, including Ukraine.
4. Please stop you nazi statements about any nation.