For the thread as a whole, particularly to the OP, I honestly don't understand why everyone on the internet has to be so polarised about everything.  This thread is just further evidence that people can't even discuss topics without becoming some sort of extremist, which is unfortunate for the community as a whole.  It's hardly ever that black and white, so stop talking in terms of "moon" and "fail", when the reality is clearly going to occupy some happy middle ground.