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Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore
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MickeyT2008
on 09/09/2013, 00:19:23 UTC
In these articles you see what might be (for a foreigner) a rotten point of the actual american politicians and probably most modern democracies. The lobbies and the revolving doors..

They care too much (and i mean too much about lobbies and about getting their part of the cake on any issue) more than work for the country

+ In the case of bitcoin they say "the main problem of bitcoin is that it does not have lobbies" -> http://www.politico.com/story/2013/08/bitcoins-washington-problem-95803.html?hp=f1
+ Also as a reflection of the "real interests" of these people you see how politico.com points at how big the real interest of politicians might be for bitcoin:

"Bitcoin campaign Donations" where they care a bit too much on how if possible are they going to get money using bitcoins donations
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/09/bitcoin-campaign-donations-96301.html

and
http://bloom.bg/17JYJPU
Interesting articles from a politician mind. (<---- caution advised !!)


So that was the reason i said that maybe all the NSA stuff is just about some financial/lobby interest and who cares about national interests?

Look, even the russians lobby American politicians

http://www.usatoday.com/story/theoval/2013/09/03/obama-putin-russia-syria-congress/2756801/

All i am talking about it is from the ignorant point of view of a foreigner so take it with caution.

yea as a foreigner i can't help to ignore these rotten points in your country, i see the same stuff in german policy.

[rant state=drunk]
assemblymen in germany still can't be sued for obvious corruption because of immunity. There are 4500 lobbyists for 650 politicians in Berlin
despite false electionpromises for tax reduction for working class
she made a lot of laws in favor of banking sector and energy industry monopols...after she had a birthday diner with Ackermann (at that time manager of biggest bank in germany)
and managers of the three biggest energy companys (a week after her election!?!!) .
she doesn't even try to hide her sockpuppet role for economy.
Feels like a german continuation of Thatcher era for nearly a decade now.
fuckin' ridiculous how she runs "politics" while society sleeps in an uninterested apathetic coma.
sorry, but sometimes it needs to come out...  Tongue
[/rant]

I'm always stunned how that style of lobbyism scales up to an alarming level in US.
e.g. Monsanto is like an attempt to get a hold of the worldwide production pipeline of vegetable stable food.
Global centralisation (= attempt at more than 51%) no matter in what market is simply for the disadvantage of the global population.
same prob with big IT companies in US, centralize use of tech and software -> centralize userbase and observe the networks

that russian lobbyists article is like the cherry on the cake ...at least they can watch their own tvchannel in the american hotel lobby  Cheesy
it's always the same power game that finally peaks in the UN security council

i hope i 've performed well as an ignorant foreigner  Wink


Everything you both wrote also describes perfectly the situation here in the UK, where we genuinely do have a continuation of the dreadful Thatcher years.

"...while society sleeps in an uninterested apathetic coma" - That's the same here too unfortunately.  Considering the way this government is deliberately impoverishing everyone whilst blatantly stuffing their pockets it should be enough to cause rioting or even civil war, unfortunately the population is too busy watching Eastenders and Big Brother on TV instead.  So long as nobody's pointing guns at them the British public will happily suck up the propaganda and accept mistreatment from corrupt governments indefinitely.

Anyway, I'll say no more about it because this could easily turn into a several page long rant if I get started.

Where's the ask/bid walls to discuss when I would like to get back on topic?  I haven't seen one for a few days now.

With no walls or trading action worth mentioning I'm going to go to bed instead, goodnight all, and try not to crash the price before I get up please, thanks.