I think in some small way, we achieved a degree of understanding of the current situation, yesterday. Not enough to satisfy the obvious demands that are necessary going forward, but at least some sense that Ken's attention, and skin ("....average ~0.0034"), is on the case.

For the ones who accept the risk, its late October - mid November that are the next days of judgement, and in the mean time, its a case of gleaning any valued, relevant, and FUD free information, by whatever means..........unless creativex is appointed PR man!  

Thanks again board and Ken, for your efforts.