+1 go troll somewhere else
who is trolling? I am not talking about users who are in this web of refunds from burnin and shenanigans with avalon, only for fresh guys, who are looking to buy hardware- it's better priced than bitfury for 'better' hardware and what looks like better shipping times (for late orders)
go look in the mirror & the person looking back at you is the one who is trolling.
If you are trying to "help" new customers why are you arguing and trying to incite existing customers with your uninformed opinions.