Re: Can you still believe aTriz words? Outcome= Yes [will lock on evening]

Quote from: scam_detector on March 06, 2018, 11:15:58 AM

I've spent a lot of time wondering if I should open this thread again

scam_detector, I thank you for reopening this thread. After I saw crusos post, I was considering making that suggestion. I think its important for any such questions to be examined in a fair and impartial manner.

To that end, I wish to reserve comment about aTriz until aTriz himself has a reasonable chance to have his say. However, I also deem it wise to gather into the record here several interesting observations I made about this alleged gambling script. I will edit this post with quotes and links to recent threads, or make a new post if more appropriate. (In a nutshell: Events which transpired after RGBKey offered to audit the script.)

Edit 1:

On the offer of a confidential audit:

While I was preparing a post suggesting an independent audit of Alias purported script, RGBKey stepped up of his own initiative and offered to perform one:

https://web.archive.org/web/20180306121333/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3044369.100#msg31501344

Quote from: RGBKey on March 03, 2018, 05:43:18 PM

I'll offer to audit this script. If alia wants to send it to me then I will go through it and analyze how it works and post my analysis about it here without revealing its inner workings. I don't plan to bet money with it, instead to analyze the code.

I emphasize that independently and unprompted by anyone, RGBKey stated that he offered to analyze the script without revealing its inner workings. I myself thought as such that if acting in good faith, Alia had no rational reason not to jump for the opportunity of such an audit. Private auditors are usually well-paid.

I promptly gave my endorsement to RGBKeys technical abilities for performing such an audit. Given my general reputation, and also that Alia has repeatedly called me a genius, I hoped that this would encourage her to agree to an audit by RGBKey:

https://web.archive.org/web/20180306121333/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3044369.100#msg31502508

Quote from: nullius on March 03, 2018, 06:02:33 PM

I myself will vouch for RGBKeys technical competence for performing such an audit. I dont know gambling; but I have interacted with RGBKey in the Development & Technology forum, and he knows his stuff. I would trust the results of any gambling script audit performed by RGBKey.

What say you, Alia?

suchmoon was less optimistic than I was. Quite prescient:

https://web.archive.org/web/20180306121333/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3044369.100#msg31504847

Quote from: suchmoon on March 03, 2018, 06:43:34 PM

I fully expect alia to weasel out of this for some random reason.

...indeed:

https://web.archive.org/web/20180306121333/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3044369.100#msg31520776

Quote from: alia on March 04, 2018, 01:01:21 AM

Jeez... you don't get it do you? Auditing means giving the script for free. Not interested.

(Aside: In the same post, Alia also asked me to return money which she purported to have won for me by gambling. When I said I had offered to give the money away to someone who needed it, she challenged me to donate 0.00673625 BTC to the Pirate Bay. I did so. I dont want ill-gotten gains; and TPB deserves the money, not least because they hate Btrash. Post with my txid, which can be traced through previous tx I have posted as to this affair: https://web.archive.org/web/20180304043503/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3044369.msg31526121#msg31526121)

Whereupon I explained:

https://web.archive.org/web/20180306121340/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3044369.120#msg31523930

Quote from: nullius on March 04, 2018, 03:12:52 AM

Keeping focus on the top-line and bottom-line issue: No, an audit does not mean giving the script for free.

Multi-billion-dollar software companies entrust their proprietary source code to independent auditors. Do you really think your precious script is more valuable than that?

Now, I repeat: Alia, you yourself made this an issue:

Quote from: alia on March 02, 2018, 10:59:09 PM

Like I said, many, many times... not everything has to be 100% math based. My aim is to make profit for people, and I am doing it. That is my end goal. Not to fit your stupid equations (which are not even relevant since you don't know the intricacies of how my script works)

If your ultimate answer is that your critics lack sufficient knowledge to judge your script because they havent seen it, then it is incumbent on you to grant such knowledge.

You cant have your cake and eat it, too, by claiming that secret knowledge overrides the known laws of mathematics, refusing to let anybody else examine it, and then claiming to prove that your script works based on statistically, scientifically invalid experimentation performed in an unverifiable manner.

Really, this secret knowledge is beginning to take on a quasi-mystical edge.

...and I continued persisting in pressing Alia to agree to an audit:

https://web.archive.org/web/20180306121340/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3044369.120#msg31526121

Quote from: nullius on March 04, 2018, 04:33:42 AM

Now, again: How about that audit?

There are at least two other posts by Alia which I think may be relevant. One, I cant seem to find right now amidst the voluminous posts of the past few days. That and the other, I intend to address later either by editing this post again, or making a separate post.