I'm not sure I can say the same for the other group buy I'm in.  Garr255 recieved a refund from Avalon on 9/11/13, which was two days before it was supposedly requested.  I have inquired in that group buy thread what that refund was for with no answer.  Garr has logged on multiple times in the past couple days with no posts.  I hope I'm wrong, but starting to look fishy.

https://blockchain.info/tx/61da257b9ee2547c953ed2c7a4fa38186791bc8d633b4636c20647c0fa0ed4ba

He transferred it to another address where it's sitting now.