hey guys,
Let's make one thing clear... I do NOT have the BTC from this group buy. I never did. JohnK was the escrow and he has everything. He will be around soon, I don't know where he went. I do not have the chips from this group buy either .... that's why we are being refunded.
except for the sample chips... Can you pay for john k's escrow fee/ the people who took over since you kinda failed as a group buy organizer...
That's not how it works, Noitev. You are paying JohnK's escrow fee, because you are now getting the full force of his protection.
Im aware and appreciate john ks existence, Im just saying raging more or less blatantly tried to steal our chips (he stole 20 already) and since we did everything to prevent it, he wants his entire share back as a fallback. Isn't it suspicious that he's never on, except when money is at stake for him? we paid for john k. to prevent exactly what he did, and now that we have some of his funds, I think it's only fair we subtract johns fee from raging's investment.
Also, as much as I love John k, we resorted to having to use group buy members to facilitate the transaction/cancellation. I understand both sides of the argument, namely that raging is saying "The price is 1.5% higher so that if I scam you, you get your money back." but when he actually does, isn't it fair that he pay for the 1.5%? I understand it could have very well have been a poor set of circumstances and that he might not have tried to scam us, but my opinion is totally opposed to that when he magically becomes healthy enough to post on the forums, something he was incapable of doing while he had control of over 50,000 dollars in hardware coming to him and had endless queries asking chip statuses. The only time he
ever posted was when he was in serious risk of losing his chips
-just moved in to my house, that's why I was gone, relax
-death in the family, sorry Im still ok to do this
-therapist told me to separate myself from the internet, everything is still fine
-Oh there's a refund? ok, give me all my money back then...
Obviously he doesn't deserve the 1% so he's not going to argue for that, but he'll be damned if he comes out of this with less than what he put in after all the work he's gone through failing to scam us. I was ok with all of this so far, since I talked to prodigits a few times on skype. That was until raging said he gave the sample chips that were decidedly not his to prodigits7, a personal friend of his he wants to repay for doing damage control on his kncminer groupbuy. I'd value the chips at over 4 btc total since they were shipped months ago. So if raging feels like he can pay prodigits, why not pay the people doing damage control here? I honestly wouldn't really care if raging would just pay for the 1.5% escrow fee, but he's gonna try to profit on this failed groupbuy by double dipping in the chips and the full amount of the refund? screw that.
For what it's worth, I totally agree. This guy is a dirtbag. He disappeared when the thought he had our hardware, but the second he loses control, he gets 'cured' and pops back up wanting his money back. What. The. Fuck?
Regardless of what happens, JohnK has earned his 1.5%, and he deserves to keep it. However, I'm inclined to agree that Ragin needs to compensate us for the sample chips he stole. Those chips were not his, and he flat-out REFUSED to say where those chips were, until he's in a position of trying to get HIS money back. How many times was he asked where the chips were prior to this, and he just ignored it?
I would be among the 'ayes' if a vote were cast as to whether John's fees should come out of Ragin's refund, but that's probably a logistical nightmare for Johnk. But by all means, Ragin had better pay for the fucking chips he stole.
Ragin, in case you haven't seen my previous posts, I'm going to tell you here. You are a coward, and a piece of shit.