there's no vistas anymore, maybe except Gobyte that pays me 4.275 coins a week. It's either MN pre-sale of the coin with 80% to MN / 20% to miners reward that ends up at the exchange listed at the cost of the pre-sale and then the price gets dumped by the MN owners in the day 1 and ofc miners get nothing and the investors mostly get pwned cuz they used to buy 5 times higher and the ROI becomes 2 yrs. Or the dev runs away right after the MN pre-sale and miners get nothing and ofc the investors get pwned as well. Nicehash order guys are considered investors as well. Add to that the twitter bounty is now 2 coins instead of 20 coins like it was in December... and everybody else except whales loses any interest in the sinking crypto world and right after that those whales are pwned by the Physeter macrocephalus guys and they sink as well.