we are not exactly sure that knc offers refunds (imho) I was told on here that because our orders THAT came AFTER the deadline of Oct 15th you suddenly COULD get a refund. This may always have been the case for the November orders .but for the 1st knc run they locked out refunds beginning of OCT I think it was.

So reading that and on a chance and yesterday morning my 520x Saturn still said PAID I requested a refund ( by the time I get this order it will be nov 1st and nov 15th will begin shipping on the next run from knc miner at the reduced cost...so this seemed  a better plan and small window of opportunity...)

Like 1/2 hr later I got an email from customerservice@kncminer.com saying that it was in "processing" and they they would get back to me today on if they can pull the unit and give me a refund..so if you have an item with PAID still on it .you have to jump...not sure if they will pull items in processing may  have only done that cause it just changed status for my Saturn unit and the customer rep saw it.

anyway the only window I know for people in the 1st run to get refunds w/o resorting to paypal and cc disputes.......If they just send me the Saturn anyway say I can't get a refund I'll just eat it...probably and mine...but for $4K to use or save for another day ...under current 'dump' of asic devices what the heck worth a shot ...would not mind the 2nd toy but hey..if your gonna dangle a refund in front of me with the next month looming and I already have a Jupiter on the way....i'll bite...(of course all my choices are wrong....so we will see..in the btc world anyway)

and side note as it relates to difficulty etc to knc miners hitting the network...BFL since KNC had its 'demo' at the first of the month has stopped or slowed production on its other products and really been dumping out mini-rigs or at least at a pace now similar to their other units....not sure if this was a poison the well for everyone tactic or what but prev to this they we're trying to get the low end units more worthless sooner out first....anyway that also contributed to my decision they are in MARCH on their mini-rig orders ...if they really get moving on getting the rest of their stuff out...that will be a big hit diff wise with knc from now thru December....they have not even got to the NEW pricing units yet from april when BTC hit the news and their sales shot up....so lame they are..

anyway it is what it is i'll let you know how it goes.....just trying to helpful those with even later units then mine

Searing