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Board Politics & Society
Re: American-liberals, socialists and statists, what is your idea of liberty?
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david4dev
on 11/07/2011, 20:15:33 UTC
Even if I lose all of my property, I can rely on the welfare state to provide for my needs so I will not have a valid reason to steal from you.

That's like saying "I don't have to steal from you, I can just ask someone else to do it for me and then receive the stolen property". That's called aiding and abetting.
It is not like that and it is definitely not aiding and abetting - aiding and abetting requires me to do some action to help someone who is stealing from you. I would not do that. You seem to feel that if I lost everything and had to rely on the welfare state until I could make a living for myself, that would be stealing from you specifically.

There are plenty of other alternatives. The one I favour is respecting each others opinions while disagreeing. My morality will prevent me from initiating violence anyway and even in the case of self defence, I will look for alternatives (such as running away).

Right, so you refuse to do your own dirty work but you have no problem advocating thugs in blue costumes doing it for you.
I do not advocate any violence except for minimal force in self defence or when someone is arrested and will not come quietly.