Quote from: philipma1957 on May 10, 2018, 11:51:23 AM

As is the attack on gpu mining by asic builders.

The most successful year ever 2017 was on the back of gpu mining and the asic builders attack the gear that created that success.

Do I think zcash is a bad coin do i think they are scum? I did see your youtube video. It makes a good case. I will wait and see what zcash really does before I decide they are scum or a clever fighter of the asic attacks on them..

Yeah I totally agree with everything you say,
it was his reply tweet on March 30th that made me loose all respect for zooko:

"I'm not sure it is possible. Also it might be undesirable, because commodity mining means miners have less at stake and don't lose much if abandon or betray the project. Also CPU-mioning means the people making the money are botnet gangs- not the people i want to have around"

that was in response to asking him for suggestions on how to change Ethash to eliminate the asics...

at that point he literally said we were the people he didn't want around... there was no reason at that time to say that and insult those of us who have built his hashrate from day 0 testnet days.... that was a month before the asics came out... and its not like bitmain is watching those kinds of tweets... so yeah.. at that point i realized he is not someone we should want around... that he would end up betraying us, not us betraying his network.

That tweet and reply was a few days before I posted on the forum about the potential of ZEC co. getting sued if they did not eliminate the ASICs as was previously said they would do... (which was on April; 3rd)

then the fact shawn edited his post (on April 4th)... I would like to ask him WHY he edited it.. but I can't since im banned Cool

that pushed me over the edge.

Quote from: gameboy366 on May 10, 2018, 11:57:29 AM

Bitmain has a lot money. It could be that there was deal between them behind the scenes. I do believe that Bitmain secretly funds lots of cryptocurrency projects. Once the community builds they bring the ASICs to the market. Monero earned my respect with their forking decision.

Bitmain holds the bone with their ASICs while we are treated like dogs. Only support coins that support us.

yup, we will never know as if there was collusion, ZEC co. was probably paid via z-address...

Quote from: toptek on May 10, 2018, 01:15:52 PM

I believe or that's how i feel atm > ZEC co. Has Deceived and Misled GPU Miners.
I 'm not calling it a Scam yet but do feel we were mislead and lied to all for money .

Quote from: gameboy366 on May 10, 2018, 11:57:29 AM

Bitmain has a lot money. It could be that there was deal between them behind the scenes. I do believe that Bitmain secretly funds lots of cryptocurrency projects. Once the community builds they bring the ASICs to the market. Monero earned my respect with their forking decision.

Bitmain holds the bone with their ASICs while we are treated like dogs. Only support coins that support us.

it seems you have been following it and if what your saying is the case then they lied and mislead us .I was even told on another forum by the DEV that zec would stay Resistance to ASIC . when Zec started in a pass by post i can't find now , that was my main reason for mining Zec back then

Quote from: norminorm on May 09, 2018, 03:19:40 PM

Personally i supported Zcash network from beginning, but when Zocco did a statement that ASIC doesn't concern him and he wont stick to the people who help him become rich and famous. i switched my miners to RAVEN and Monero.

That's what Ive done switch to Monero and Raven mostly Raven .

yup, it was actually mentioned a lot of times on the forum that they would just fork and eliminate any asics, however i cant find most of those posts anymore... but I was an avid user of the forum and can clearly remember being told that several times.... as I was making videos at the time so I needed to reassure my viewers that GPU mining equihash would be safe for the future...

which is why i really feel cheated by them... because I recommended them... and really feel like they are throwing us off a cliff without a care of what was said in the past...

when i tell people something based off of what I am told, i expect what i am told to be true... i have an infamous reputation to uphold...