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Re: Growth, Interest and Wage Inequality - To the austrian economists here
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Rassah
on 19/07/2011, 16:51:57 UTC
But lenders take the liquidity premium without providing any service to society.

The money holder has the power to enable commerce...

So, which is it? Money holders/lenders don't provide any service, or money holders/lenders enable commerce?

Money provides the service, lenders take the profit. Also they enable other "capitalists" to take it too.

Is that like "rental car provides the service, rental car agency that maintains the fleet or cars take the profit?"

You are also apparently focusing in on the "liquidity premium" as the main evil of interest. Is liquidity, aka easy access to capital, a useless/worthless service?

I focus on it because I don't want to attack the risk premium.
No, liquidity is so important that influences all the economy and capital accumulation.

But, without liquidity, economic activity would grind to a slow pace, since everyone who needs capital for whatever purpose will have to wait a long time until their request for such is fulfilled (like putting a buy price at MtGox, and waiting for hours until your order is filled, if it ever does)

How can you make a profit on liquidity without lending???

Very good question.
The easy answer (just like the borrowers would do it) doesn't apply here, because we're supposing that we're in a recession environment in which no borrower can make any investment that yields more than the liquidity premium in any sector of the economy. A very extreme scenario, by the way, I bet impossible within capitalism.
That's what merchants do. They make profit on liquidity through the wares. If they're borrowers, they pay it to their lender.
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Using exact definitions of the words, a "liquidity premium" is basically what the money holder can get on a spread in a currency market. If no one is borrowing/buying money (no trading of currency), the spread will be irrelevant, and thus might as well be 0. What's your definition of this liquidity premium? I think mis-communication as to what you mean by that is what may be causing problems in this discussion.
By the way, I've come to the conclusion that Gesell is a TERRIBLE writer, since the book tends to have a lot of words with little explanation regarding the assumptions behind them. What is YOUR definition and explanation of it?