Anyone using ebay who finds card where they won't offer a DOA should just let these be. It's sketchy as it is. I've been on both sides of the fence, I'd much prefer to do a face to face. I've picked up 4 5870's within an hour distance of me on craigslist. First, I know where the guy lives. IF something fishy happens, I can come back and either grief them to hell, or ask for some help in getting it RMA'd. Most people are much nicer when faced in person.