SBB, Im bad mouthing you cos you are just too easy. Anything and everything you say is meant to prove that you are supposedly of such high intellect that only you can understand the science needed to prove your ridiculous god.
And so I stand by my previous statement: You are assuming things based on your beliefs and views. Your basic science is collective and coloured with YOUR opinion. I'm not badmouthing science, I love science. I refuse to refute your so called science purely because your putting your beliefs in certain scientific fields that YOU believe means god. Do you understand SBB? I have always been talking about the root cause of WHY and HOW you put your faith in your so called science-which-explains-god....not the actual science.
People could believe that the square root of the angle of the sun divided by the length of a bird's wings could mean god.....any of these things individually exists. Put them together and to THEM it means god. As does your collection of so called science mean god to YOU. None of these proves the scientific existence of god.
See SBB? Probably not....your prolly gonna come back with some witty comment about not talking science in a science thread when your JUST TOO DENSE to understand what I'm actually saying. Sorry I'm talking over your head, its that pesky cognitive dissonance again.
There you go, doing the exact thing that you claim I am doing.
Cause and effect is upheld by Newton's 3rd Law, if nothing else. That isn't me. It is standard science.
Entropy is standard science and is visible everywhere.
Complexity is standard science and is visible everywhere.
I can't help it you are too biased against science to understand that these 3 things could not exist in a universe without God.
Now, don't misunderstand. The God of the universe is not being described by science very much. Perhaps even the word "God" is an improper word to use. If you feel that way, use other terms, like "Almighty, Divine Intelligence." or "The great First Cause," or "The Father of All," or any other words that describe God more accurately. But don't go on ignoring standard science which is all around you.

''these 3 things could not exist in a universe without God.'' You are saying those 3 things exist and they do but you are not proving how they all together prove god. How do you know they can't exist without a god?