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Re: Would killing the minimum wage help?
by
lemonginger
on 23/07/2011, 04:04:26 UTC
I guess I'm more Mises than Rothbard,then... I'd be in favor of drawing a strict line between public and private, and then letting the workers have the public stuff, and let the market sort the private.

As to culpability for things like Agent Orange, and Napalm, and the MOAB, I'm not much one for punishing old wrongs. It's better to move on, I think. Especially with wounds as old as slavery.

I will give you the benefit of the doubt as I give von Mises in this situation because I think that you both tend to believe that giant and evil corporations are so much only emergent in state-corporate (dare I say fascist) socioeconomic systems that a true free market would make mincemeat of them very quickly. I'm obviously much more circumspect in that regard and think that the argument kinda stinks of saying well, first we'll steal all the land and capital and THEN we'll say okay, from here on out, this will be a free market. (ie; I think you are arguing it because you honestly believe such a market, would, regardless of starting point quickly improve the wellbeing of a lot of people. I think that such a market, in absence of redsitribution, has the potential to become an even more unshakable oligarchy thna we have now)

Regardless, I've said before and I'll say again that it would give me more confidence if anarcho-capitalists knew their OWN theorists and knew that many of them advocated things like turning companies over to their workers, slave reparations, etc.

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I wonder though, if a free market will reach optimal outcomes so quickly in a true free market, why not just turn all companies over to their workers, turn all land over to its users (as much as such a thing is possible - ie; make that the default attitude, rather than a leave things as they are attitude unless some egregious recent breach of property can be irrefutably demonstated) -- ie; make it so new property claims have the burden of proof since we call all agree nearly everything is inextricably bound up in a violent and coercive socioeconomic system at the moment.