Also, do not have any live testing of annyone trying the bitmain cryptonight miner on cryptonight heavy, its easily possible it can do all from 5 to 30 kh/s and i believe alot of the network has been some of that.

Do we have any here who tried cryptonight heavy on these asics? cause so far it seems like a fine secret to not give out any info on that, a rx vega does 1450 wiith HBCC and rx580 does 850 so if these asics does 5000 to 30 000 that'd be broken and needs RYO to get a new algorythm once again for gpu's.

also where is Nv gpu miner for this?