People are thrown out from telegram with too many questions(no fud), dates always shifted, since ico -1500% loss.
The Amount in the ico has always changed since it was stupidly counted in dollars and not in eth or btc.
If you ask about the vesting period, i heard 4 different statements from the team.He is known for being opaque. There is only 1 winner = Mr.Lubinsky.

Actually a good project but the team is just too bad and the leadership is not progressing.

you will not hear anything except senseless further q & a sessions