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Re: The Space Industry: An example of why governments fail and freedom prevails.
by
rainingbitcoins
on 27/07/2011, 09:38:00 UTC
I'll take this as option 3, "If presented, a majority would agree"

Well then, What are you worried about? If you but explain how your system is better, then certainly, most people will see the light, and preferentially choose the products produced by the co-op, even if it is a few bucks more (for reference, see how well organic products are doing, simply by adding that one word)

Like I said, it's not quite so simple. The propaganda, both subtle and overt, in the U.S. makes all of this a million times harder. We have millions of people who think an awful centrist president who seems to openly despise the left-leaning wing of his base is a bona-fide socialist. Imagine what they'd think when the news people called something socialist and were actually right about it! We have one far-right political party and one center-right political party. Trying to come back from that far behind is no simple task.

And you should know as well as I do that the best ideas aren't always the ones that win. All of the popular media is against the idea, because, well, they're big corporations. We see people from the hard right debating on TV all the time, but when was the last time you saw someone talking about the benefits of far leftist ideology on TV? I think I was like 20 before I heard the word "proletariat" for the first time. It seems like moderate liberals are the best we can hope for, even when eminently qualified guests like libertarian socialist author Noam Chomsky would be happy to appear, and do appear in alternative media like Democracy Now.

Being on the far right, I don't think you understand just how pervasive this is. And somehow this country is so far to the political right that, compared to their beliefs, people think we have a liberal media, which really just blows my mind.

It's not just a matter of convincing people of these things one time, because as soon as you plant that seed of doubt in their minds, they get to go home and watch hours and hours of Fox News and your words are forgotten. Learning about leftism requires reading lots of books, some of which can get pretty dry, and we all know how likely it is that modern Americans are gonna be down with that.

There are so many hugely significant stumbling blocks and barriers that I doubt anything that I'd like to see will ever happen in America, unless things get so incredibly bad that it starts to look like our only option. Even then, I think we'd see about a dozen revolutions from the far right before we ever see one from the far left. I dunno. I've had people call me a defeatist for expressing these sentiments, but I prefer to call myself a realist.