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Re: wow, bitcoin's astro birth chart is full on!
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notme
on 31/12/2013, 17:41:08 UTC
I assure you with 100% scientific certainty; if anything interesting happens around those dates, either with Bitcoin or anything else in the world, it is a coincidence and in no way related to Pluto or any other planet.  You will always find something for any date.  If you don't, have another look.  This entire thread is entirely a waste of time, unless you are amused by reading bullshit.  I wish there was a way to unwatch topics I have posted in…
I wish there was a way to re-open your mind...
Gullible is not the same as open minded.  My mind is open to any verifiable scientific proofs and conjectures you may present.  I am not easily fooled, however.
You would have to search for the studies, but the two studies that stand out are:
1 - Correlation between Mars falling on the main angles in the charts of professional athletes. This was incredible to read.
2 - The STRONG correlation between people with "mental issues" and strong 12 houses (e.g. many planets in there). I have actually come across this with quite a few acquaintance's while giving them readings.
Too bad you don't know what strong correlation means.  

Strong correlations shows up at random all the time.  This is why we look at the data from different angles, and what do we find?  No correlation.  False positive.  There is, however, a small correlation between some mental illnesses and the time of year a person was born, especially far north and far south, but this can be easier explained by simpler means.  Like how much daylight there is at different times during the first few years.

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If I was to try to "prove" astrology, I wouldn't rely on scientific method per say.
Really.  What is a proof to you then?  I'm sure there are Nobel prices waiting for people who can find better ways to prove something.

If you believe science proves anything in the positive you are in the minority.  Science is generally considered to only proves things in the negative.  From the wikipedia article on science:
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A scientific theory is empirical, and is always open to falsification if new evidence is presented. That is, no theory is ever considered strictly certain as science accepts the concept of fallibilism. The philosopher of science Karl Popper sharply distinguishes truth from certainty. He writes that scientific knowledge "consists in the search for truth", but it "is not the search for certainty ... All human knowledge is fallible and therefore uncertain."

As for your "simpler explanation" argument, two paragraphs down we have this:
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Stanovich also asserts that science avoids searching for a "magic bullet"; it avoids the single-cause fallacy. This means a scientist would not ask merely "What is the cause of ...", but rather "What are the most significant causes of ...". This is especially the case in the more macroscopic fields of science (e.g. psychology, cosmology).

So it would seem your beliefs about science are different from the mainstream.

As a more mainstream scientist, I ask you: Can you prove false the hypothesis that the relative positions of the nearby heavenly bodies influence our thoughts and actions?  Evidence that it does has been presented, we await your evidence.  You don't have any, because this hypothesis falls outside the realm of science at this point in time.  We may one day be able to move people to different planets, which would enable a real study.  But our current technology does not allow us to conduct the experiments necessary to falsify astrology.  As such, the tools of science can be applied to study correlations, but no proof can be had.

Clinging to the idea that you if you can't prove it, then it is not real is very dogmatic.  I used to be the same when I was a teenager, but then I opened my mind and found a much bigger world.