This forum has become irrelevant due to the lack of moderation. The only way to get anything accomplished here is to troll, hence that's what you get. If you want honest dialog without the trolling, i suggest the BFL forums. If you will notice, I only respond to trolls for the most part. If people like Entropy, Micon, Bicknell ski, etc would stick to posting facts and being honest instead of lying constantly, I would have no need to post. But they are incapable of being honest, thus the only way to combat a troll around here is to be as bad as they are. If we could get real moderation, then it wouldn't be an issue.

 Honest question Josh. Do you recognize that you yourself are trolling ? Do you acknowledge that I was responding poorly to your trolling of these forums, and myself as a former customer of yours, back during your 65nm production debacle ?

 I would honestly like to know how I have spread misinformation, or outright lies about you or Butterfly Labs.

 Please. Let me know with details so I can offer apologies. Spreading lies is not my thing.

 You attempting to besmirch my good name speaks more to you than it does me. I don't think you see this either

 Again, I'm not the bad guy here. Stop trying to paint me out to be one because I responded poorly to you over your consistent inability to offer accurate production information for over six months, all the while taunting and trolling us.

 I've aspired to take a higher road since then, Josh. Maybe that's something you can work towards as well in 2014.