Whoever has the 17k sell wall is clearly the same person who has the 7k bid at 30. Just a heads up for everyone. Probably not the best time to buy when he is in a dumping mood. If someone sells him 7k at 30, I expect his price will go down in a real hurry on his 17k since he won't have anything left to artificially inflate the market with. The going rate is most clearly not 30 right now and only looks that way because of his pathetic attempt to get his CATs sold. Only a novice trader or incompetent whale would be buying that kind of CAT quantity for short term speculation in the present climate.