finally got everything back, I paid 24.1 btc for hosted mining 2 days before the final 'live event'. I actually flew up to surfers for it and stood in the Hilton foyer by myself like a stooge. Next day asked for a refund, 6 weeks and 95 emails later I got it all back (minus 0.14 btc in 'processing fees'). Bit by bit they paid as they were speculating on the markets, there were at least 2 people replying as 'Andrew', one politely keeping the business facade and the other a cocky speculator who overused the word "buddy". They had the coins over the whole crash and basically used us as a free short service. Anyway just glad the ordeal is over.