It sounds like you're just terrible at timing hardware purchases. I've got three Jupiters that have been hashing away for 6 weeks are have already earned back 80% of the BTC I paid for them.
Pretty much everyone bought October Jupiters when btc was hovering around $100. So me and 7000-9000 others were terrible at timing hardware purchases by that logic
In case it's unclear, I meant October units when I said "2000 - 5000 devices shipped after October 16th will not ROI". I wasn't talking about November units, just so that's clear.
November units are a different equation - what is the BTC ROI on those? 10-20BTC? I vaguely remember Phoenix saying he bought around the $350/btc mark.
Bitcoin price was around 150 bucks (except for the huge jump near the end when it hit 200). Units were 5000 each and had a 10% discount on BTC payemnts (4500/150=30 BTC needed to break even)