The only proven liar on here who we can say for certain has lied to try to benefit his own share position is VE/Canadianguy.

He deliberately lied about having a VMC machine. He then lied about being paid 5btc by zumzero.

Oh and he's also made repeated threats against Ken's life. If there is anyone on here with zero credibility its VE.

He is just an aggressive, immature, paranoid gym junkie. Get over this creep already.