like i said,i login with ledger nano s and make transaction with same seed
but i have something else on mind what maybe can be

to update new firmware ,i needed restore configuration and this result with not working pin
maybe i initialize new wallet with same seed?
or is possible next:
that i have 12 word secret key created from 24 words ,to unlock wallet ledger ask me like this
for example
for first word chose word numer 18 from 24 words
for second chose word number 5
and so on till 12,i am not sure about this but i remember something like this that ledger asked me random words when i unlock wallet last time
probably i have right seed but wrong order