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Re: Is a Madmax outcome coming before 2020? Thus do we need anonymity?
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AnonyMint
on 25/01/2014, 09:35:18 UTC
You continue to miss the point, there is no measurement for "best" even for an individual or a group. It is always a subjective judgment. Is an abortion today best or not? Should you take that birth control pill or not? What facets did we tradeoff to maximize some function of longevity, happiness, health, measurement of educational attainment, etc?

Evolution is only "correct" in retrospect, i.e. that race evolved. How it is evolved is chaotic, and other potential outcomes would have been just as correct in other ways, i.e. if the dinosaurs prevailed and primates never came into existence as a result or some other result. There were zillions of little incremental individual choices made and there is no overall metric of fitness. Besides is dynamic and coinductive function (i.e. irreversible).

You may decide you prefer an outcome and so attaining that goal is your definition of best. But that is precisely subjective individual or groupwise choice. It is not an objective metric. I already explained to you that an objective measurement would eliminate chance (because there is only one possible best choice), which means you would not exist (in the universe of chance and thus past and present would collapse into a single infinitesimal point because everything can be known a priori and thus diversity is reduced to one outcome).

The machine can't be better at something (i.e. diversity) that has no objective measurement! It can help the human optimize a choice the human made. Or the machine could make its own random choices. You fundamentally don't understand that the universe is made of entropy, i.e. orthogonal probabilities. I've explained to you why it can only be that way, else nothing exists. But I don't demand you are able to comprehend or agree. So I will stop here. I do believe if you could understand, you would agree. I think it is lack of understanding of why we can't exist if there is no subjectively. Chance and diversity require each other. It is a very interesting conceptual discovery. I would expect some other scientists or philosophers had this discovery, but I am not aware of who they are.