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Re: What is the right and fair way to stop Mike Hearn?
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acoindr
on 25/01/2014, 20:09:00 UTC
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Maybe I'm missing something, but what's preventing a government from running the hash function on all the passports and de-anonymizing all the hashes? They own the passports database after all.

Great question! The talk was only 15 minutes (a lot of people were standing the whole time), so there is a bunch of detail that I glossed over.

The proof you present is proof you ran a program correctly. Thus the hash can be salted, memory hard or whatever you want to do. Now I think there is a legitimate issue here which is that the space of valid passports is not very large - even in the best case of 100% ownership it's O(size of country) so even if the hash is salted or whatever a government that wanted really badly to deanonymize its citizens who are running nodes could potentially brute force every single hash. This is especially an issue because a program that's being proved runs much slower than a normal program would. So there's some perhaps some more work to do here.

Of course it is not any different to the situation we have today where a government can just find every IP in their country that's running a node and go look the owners up via telcos. Even if you assume all nodes run via Tor it's not clear you can stop a government de-anonymizing you, because of things like traffic flooding attacks. And frankly the Bitcoin P2P network is quite latency sensitive, new blocks need to be flooded as fast as possible to minimize miner losses to orphan blocks, so it's unclear to me that the entire Bitcoin network will ever run behind Tor 100%. I certainly wouldn't predict it as a no-brainer future.

In short, whilst a dedicated government might be able to reverse the hash somehow, they already have other options that are unlikely to go away, and the hash does stop everyone else from learning who you are which is still pretty useful (indeed, a basic requirement).

For the sake of completeness I'd point out users wishing to remain anonymous could run their normal use wallet behind Tor with a node to help the network on a hosted server, paid anonymously with BTC, outside their country if needed. So it's possible to evade govt. detection. I do think the passport proof can be useful in many cases, though. We always prefer more not less options.