This of course doesn't mean that *everyone* will be unable to conduct business with *everyone*.
Which of course is not the claim that I made.
You're correct. I said that DT members are capable of effectively "banning" people from conducting business. You said that it is untrue. You're wrong. The sentence you quoted is not talking about that -- it's merely an additional note, and yes, that is not the claim you made. The claim you made is that DT members are *not* capable of effectively "banning" people from conducting business. I disagree with that. Do I interpret this correctly, or am I failing at something here?
Alright. I don't really understand why you're highlighting that you "would check carefully to see that you hadn't employed a shill on an auction of yours".
You better believe I would, because you've demonstrated that you don't know how auctions work and once you've learned the hard way that bidding on your own auction with your own name isn't tolerated, the next thing to do would be to have a member with a different username do it.
This is completely normal in various auctions, but not in bitcointalk auctions -- which I learned back then.
Please give some examples of auction sites/auction houses where a person can place a bid on his own auction if he thinks the price isn't high enough (or for whatever reason).
You're free to do what you want. However, I believe I know very well how auctions work. Auctioneer bidding on the auctioned item is perfectly fine around the world in various auctions. It's a form of concealed reserve price. But again, this thread is not about that. This thread is about DT misuse/abuse conducted by Vod. Some old auction and what you think about it has *nothing* to do with that. You can come to Finland to see auctions live, where auctioneer is sometimes bidding on the auction too. Auctioneer is simply in charge of the technical process of the auction and being in that role does not increase or decrease his/her ability to act as a bidder too. Some people, apparently in Bitcointalk it's the norm, see auctions as "seller must sell" -- that's however not a rule of any kind. The norm is, or maybe was, actually the contrary. Penny auctions and such have steered peoples understanding of auctions to be like that. Try to remember online auctions of early 2000. It used to be quite different. These days trust issues in e.g. ebay are very real. But this is all off-topic here.
You have the tools to work against potential abusers, which there are not too many, because who would go against someone with a gun? I'm with no gun, so Vod can currently freely misuse his position against me.
Are we both on bitcointalk here or what? This forum is rife with abuse, potential abuse, you name it--and there are many who couldn't care less about the trust system here because as I mentioned, there are many people here who don't even check people's trust feedbacks or just ignore them.
You might have called me intellecually dishonest, but I think you're intellectually
challenged based on everything you've written here.
Could be, but this case is actually quite clear and crisp. It's just somewhat long read, and obviously many people commenting in this thread -- or similar threads for the sake of it -- do not read half of what they're commenting about.
Vod is never even participating in Collectibles section and has nothing to with any of these things. He rated me simply because I told him I don't specifically trust him. This is how EGO works.
What particularly makes you think that I'm intellectually challenged? It's very clear and obvious how Vod is misusing his position as a DT member. His rating to me contains a proven lie. He says I've admitted to scamming. I've not admitted to scamming. By reading his posts in these threads, he's obviously understanding his
own misunderstanding of my words to him, intentionally or not, as "lying". After he was corrected (ie. told how he misunderstood it illogically), his ego could not let go. He's defining "scamming" to mean something else than the consensus understands as "scamming". Are you really fine with this sort of bending?
Does it mean that anything said by anyone can always be bent to "mean" something else to someone, therefore reasoning whatever actions? This is bullshit and everyone knows it. So focus on that! It's happening here, and this thread is about that too -- it's one of the ways DT members abuse their position.