Here

hodler and still buying more now and then.

I invest more just because one of the only persons I know of that has a proven deep knowledge of CC told me that byteball was the one of the only projects that had interested him since bitcoin in a big way.

Tonych knows his stuff and perhaps so do these other ones but these are not people friendly and should be confined to working with machines only.

You need an interface between them and a community of people.