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Board Altcoin Discussion
Re: Giveaway threads are not allowed
by
drakoin
on 27/01/2014, 19:03:26 UTC
Lawmaker:
Reasons:
Pro-giveaways:
Ideas, solutiontalk
the whole altcoin section causes problems


I am very happy.
It's always fascinating to see a self-reflecting system trying to change itself.
And I am optimistic, afterwards will be better than before.


A few thoughts about possible improvements.  What about:

  • Hiring people to clean up subsections - there are lots of newbies who would like to work for cryptocurrencies, and if any place then it is this here which is full of money to finance jobs.

  • Acknowledging that it's the need for money which encourages to ask for donations, and participate in give-aways.

  • Improving the search function?  I found the built-in one to be rather useless, because it's time locked. No way of making a search incrementally better. But a solution came quick, I have gotten used to using google with site:bitcointalk.org.  But still, better search functions will help a lot. Why not have a search where I can exclude whole branches of the subtopic trees from my results, and save that as one of my default searches?

  • Giveaways create too much garbage here, yes. But if we solve that, they do something positive - they invite to try and download a new software. It's more than "download, install, make address, post, hope, sell". If I like a certain variant of the wallet, it binds me to that currency. It gives programmers the chance to have a few hundred testers within a day. It actually accelerates the evolutionary process.

  • Answers to giveaway calls ... only by PM. Now that the trouble is named, it's so easy to see. Why at all put wallet addresses into an open forum discussion, I can send them by PM to the OP. More privacy, too.

  • Introducing a new button "Downvote / I-judge-this-as-spam / Don't want to see this", which increments a counter, and above a certain threshold, a human has a look a the posting.

  • A bounty for programming a stand-alone give-away website, where all give-aways can happen. In bitcointalk.org only one link needs to be posted.
  • Crowdbounty funding until someone says "yes, I do it, I built that". Can't be too difficult. Please donate 3% of your profits to me and my projects, and you can take this idea :-)

  • Until that website is ready, trying out if a giveaway sub-subsection will save the day. Of course, remove that from the "what's new" stream.

  • Removing certain subforums completely from the main "what's new" stream. Whenever any subforum gets too active, it will always annoy the rest. Make another "What's New in Altcoins" news stream.

  • A separate Newbie section in altcoins?  Newbies would graduate into being able to post in altcoins, but still not yet in other subforums, until they develop a respect for the rest of the larger world outside those crazy coin starts.

  • Acknowledging, that altcoins ARE a gamechanger, already. Evolution.


Please don't shoot the messenger, those ideas are not perfect, I am just brainstorming ...


Enjoy whatever you do. Bon appetit.

And: Happy mining!
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P.S.: This discussion has already found a lot of viewpoints and angles onto the problem at hand, and I don't want to add much more to it, just one observation: The Four Agreements could help.  The level of anger, resentment, hatred, insults, allegations, assumptions, accusations, complaints, fraud ... and what-have-you ... is quite shocking for a newbie.  I have entered this forum here only 2 months ago, and I am mainly in the altcoin section.
Man, I have seen darkness since then, it's quite incredible.  You learn to ignore and overlook a lot.  But still, it's very ugly.  Why why why?
Is it because ... what money means for (some) humans?   My question: Is this aggression a special aspect of the altcoin subforum, or is it a general problem in bitcointalk?

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